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#172 of 882 the new Optima in Canada
Sep 18, 2010 (3:59 pm)
I visited the Kia Canada head office showroom in Mississauga, Ontario and was surprised to find the new Optima on display. However, because it was a pre-production model it was locked so difficult to get inside shots, but a stunning looking vehicle in the "flesh"
#173 of 882 Re: the new Optima in Canada [conwelpic]
Sep 18, 2010 (5:03 pm)
Thanks for the pics. Boy, the bottom half of the trunk lid sure looks bare. Good thing there will be a license plate to break up some. It does look good and that's the the third or fourth different set of wheels I've seen. These don't look too bad.
#174 of 882 Re: the new Optima in Canada [conwelpic]
Sep 18, 2010 (6:47 pm)
Very cool indeed. Thanks for posting these it looks great. I know you're following this car very closely, so is this the first time you've seen one in person? Live up to your expectations?
#175 of 882 Re: the new Optima in Canada [dash5]
Sep 18, 2010 (7:32 pm)
Yes its the first time, I thought I would have to wait till one arrives at the dealership. Like I said above its a stunning vehicle, and I would say more impressive that what the pictures can present. I would say it will do extremely well in the market when it arrives and I'm guessing it could end up being a supply problem, similar to what's happened with its corporate cousing, the Sonata. The Optima is far more agressive look over the Sonata, but thats good because the old models looked too much alike, they were not distinctive enough on its own merits.
#176 of 882 Re: the new Optima in Canada [conwelpic]
Sep 19, 2010 (3:12 am)
Glad to hear it. Sometimes a car can look very good to you but still not live up to expectations. I think that's my big concern right now with the Optima having followed it so closely heh.
A new article:
"We expected the Hyundai Sonata variants—2.0 turbo and hybrid—to be impressive, but perhaps the biggest surprise of this year’s 10Best tournament, at least for me, is the Optima, Sonata’s Kia Cousin. The Sonata, you’ll recall, has been busy proving that slick styling is definitely appropriate in the mid-size-sedan segment, a design that stands out in this conservative category. All things being pretty much equal, good looks helped to give the Sonata a winning edge in its comparison test face-off against a Honda Accord, the perennial class champ, last May.
So it was hard to imagine that another car using the same foundations could rival the Sonata at its own game. But that’s precisely what the Kia does. The exterior may not be quite as eye-catching as the Sonata’s, but I rate it as more elegant, and in any case it certainly doesn’t fade into the background. And its interior décor wouldn’t look out of place in a car costing $10,000 more.
Add dynamic responses that are actually a shade more athletic than the Sonata’s, plus feature content and bargain pricing, and the Optima emerges as hard to resist.
Now for that turbo version they’ve promised us."
#177 of 882 New Optima sub-site from Kia
Sep 20, 2010 (4:32 am)
Good stuff. The wheel choices are interesting, and, it looks really good with tan interior.
#178 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [dash5]
Sep 20, 2010 (9:00 am)
You know what my main concern is? This car almost seems too good to be true. It has all the bells and whistles, style, power, price, etc. etc but will it hold up over 5-7 yrs time or will it be a constant rattle, squeak, minor breaks that cause so many trips to the dealer for warranty service that it drives you nuts? Then after the bumper to bumper ends it just starts falling apart.
I really like it but it almost seems that Hyundai-Kia has got here too fast. I'm not knocking the brand at all but it took Honda and Toyota about 20 years to get to where they were really solid and Hyundai-Kia has really only came on the last ten years. Now new engines, bodies, accessories, technology, all almost at once. Not to say it can't be done with the right organization and decision making but it's a little scary to me. I'm hoping they got it right.
#179 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Sep 20, 2010 (9:32 am)
Yeah I know what you mean. I'm almost considering a lease just because it's a 1st year model... however... when i try to step back and look at it rationally, it's really a series of incremental improvements that add up to a lot.
By the time this comes out the engine and underpinnings, in the Sonata, will have been on sale in Korea for over a year. The K5 will have been around since May in Korea. The way I am looking at it it's almost a mid year production. Assuming they are adapting to any issues that pop up, which you'd think they would.
I dont think there is a greater chance of an annoying issue in the new Optima than there is in any new model year car by a major manufacturer. I'd also say that if they're even half paying attention they'll have caught any minor issues before production in the US based on the K5 and Sonata performances.
Then again, I'm clearly biased because I really like what I see with this car.
#180 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [dash5]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:05 am)
I hope you're right but I can see how your bias(lovin' that car) is tending to make you lean a certain way in your rational. I could take the exact opposite side and make just as much sense. Both arguments make sense. The only thing I would argue is that 1 year on new engine/drivetrain is a very short time. The turbo will have a lot less time than that in service. VW is having problems with a HPFP(high pressure fuel pump) that is blowing and causing $6k-10k rebuilds with it's TDI engine that is in it's third year. Not showing up til around 50-60k miles from what I read.
I fully realize that the warranty is there on the Kia (which it is not on the VW), but to me time is money and I don't want to have to spend a lot of time at the dealer. I've been kind of spoiled wth my current 3 vehicles so maybe I'm oversensitive in this area.
#181 of 882 Re: New Optima sub-site from Kia [m6user]
Sep 20, 2010 (10:50 am)
I'm pretty spoiled too and I own a 2001 VW Jetta. If cars in service 3 years are having trouble then what can you do? I've decided that unless I hear bad things in reviews or dont like it in person after a solid test drive, I'm not going to let the 1st year thing factor in very much. If there is another car out there I like nearly as much that's a different story of course.
I can live with a few flaws so long as they are fixable.