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#347 of 379 Re: 2006 Colorado [strick27]
by kpo
May 07, 2012 (11:53 am)
I purchased a new 2006 Colorado with less than 30 miles on it and my experience with the truck and Chevy/ GM and their dealers have been the same as you and THOUSANDS of other owners. Simply a nightmare of total GREED. (I regretfully traded in a very reliable Acura.) The dealers don't deal and the manufacturer doesn't manufacture. They slash!
You said, " After shutting the truck off and restarting it the error message was gone. I took it to my local GM dealership (while i was under extended warranty) and they said that nothing was wrong." Of course, what did you expect from a Chevy Dealer; they don't care and/or they don't know how; they just want your money and as much of it as possible.
You said, " Is there a solution to this Fault yet that anyone knows about, because we all know that GM will not man up and fix it. I'm sure there is no way that their design would ever have this many problems is the way they see things. Anyway long story short i hope that GM will fix this problem."
Don't hope, there is no hope with either the company or their dealers. The company was in financial difficulty, because they don't manufacture a quality product and then don't back them up like a reputable company should.
Could you imagine if Boeing (The world's largest aerospace company and leading manufacturer of commercial jetliners and defense) built airplanes like GM built their vehicles? A GM type Boeing would say after their plane crashed, " Duh, I don't believe that there is a problem; take it to our hanger and have one of our janitor dealers look at it." Their dealer would say, "There is no problem." or "We can replace all the parts that are attached to the wing that failed, including the entire fuselage and horizontal stabilizer, 'maybe' that will solve your crashing problem. At your expense, of course"
You, the airplane owner, could always contact their Customer Service Rep and they could string you along with false hope and empty promises and then later tell you, " Our GM type Boeing can't help you."
BOTTOM LINE: A LOSER company like GM was in financial problems to the point of BANKRUPTCY and had to have the AMERICAN TAXPAYERS bail them out. What makes us think that we change a LOSER into a WINNER by just throwing Billions of dollars at them? Would you do that for a criminal? Can you change the spots on a leopard; can you change a hawk to a dove? The answer is simply, "NO"! If you love your country, don't buy GM (you will reward the greedy and punish the honest ones) ; go to a foreign car dealer and trade in your GM (Colorado or Canyon) in and a buy the foreign car (most are made in the USA); stick them with the loser GM product that they can't even give away. Tell your friends.
Ken
#348 of 379 Re: 2006 Colorado [kpo]
by n9cv
May 07, 2012 (11:39 pm)
The real issue was GM's lack of follow up on a few failure prone areas. You should expect to see a few things to make it through testing and into the production models. I have no idea what they did to simulate thousands of miles in various environments but a 2004 model might be expected still show up a few missed things and maybe even a 2005 model. After those years you should expect that GM would have made engineering changes to fix those failure prone areas. Unfortunately for us and also the future for the 355 (Colorado, Canyon, I 260, and Hummer H3) product line they chose to take the opposite route. You see a lot of lip service from the GM rep here but you never hear anyone come back and say "GM fixed my problem". Instead of fixing issues Gm chose to stonewall customers and say "we have never seen the problem before" even though it is listed here and on the Colorado forum sites hundreds of times.
GM did address the issue of the soft valve seats on the I-4 and I-5 engines by extending the warranty to 100,000 miles. They did address the failing brake light with a $10.00 recall, but other than that on these other high failure items such as the wheel sensors, the heater fan resistor, the missing star washer on the right inner fender ground connection, and the evap vent solenoid you hear nothing from them other than "you are the only one who is having this problem". It will cost you $,$$$.$$ to fix our poor design.
GM chose to make these design failures a revenue stream rather than an engineering issue. The product line is now dead. This is the last year for them and they are shutting down the US plant that makes them. You seldom see one on a dealer's lot and haven't for a few years. So there now is no incentive for GM to resolve your problem.
Two weeks ago I bought my first foreign car. It was a used 2009 Honda. I needed to reset the anti-theft radio code because I had disconnected the battery. I called Honda and registered myself as the new owner. They helped me with the new code and then said "Sir, there is a recall on that Honda and one service bulletin that you should bring you car in to have done. Your nearest dealer is xxxxxx and I can transfer you there if you would like to make an appointment." I never asked for any of this. All I wanted was a radio reset code but they went out of their way to make sure I knew what additional "free" things should be done.
I've always owned GM vehicles and GM was customer oriented is in the past like Honda is now, but Gm is not that way today. Good luck on resolving your issues. I now have 5 GM vehicles and one Honda in my family. You can bet that ratio will continue to change in the future until all of the GM vehicles are gone.
#349 of 379 Re: "I'm Sorry..." [kpo]
by tammy72
May 31, 2012 (6:22 pm)
Amen, you stated it exactly as I read this forum. You get no where here!
#350 of 379 Re: ABS [lynnie63]
by tammy72
May 31, 2012 (6:31 pm)
Yes, I pulled the fuse and the problem is solved. I have to enjoy my truck with the abs and brake light on all the time, but it's better than the brakes not working. My truck was inspected this way at the GM dealership, because they are aware of the problem and that GM is doing nothing about it. It di!d pass inspection even though this is clearly a safety hazard!
#351 of 379 Re: 2005 Colorado Z85 ABS Brake Issue [gmcustsvcsarah]
by kpo
Jun 01, 2012 (8:31 am)
I'm so sorry...I'm so sorry...I'm so sorry.... How do you and your counter parts sleep at night? Try the Honda and Toyota approach, " When can we fix your recalled part?"
#352 of 379 ABS Fault in 2005 Colorado Z71 Crew cab
by pequea
Aug 08, 2012 (8:17 am)
WOW! I just found this site because I was looking up my ABS headaches with my Colorado and see all of the posts that describe EXACTLY what is happening with me. It is heartbreaking because I bought what I thought was a perfect truck for me two years ago. A 2005 Colorado crew cab Z71 with only 30k miles! I began having the ABS problem after about 4 months and it has been going on since. My mechanic thought that it might be caused by the excessive rust (that the dealer also had concealed very well with undercoat paint) in the area of the ABS sensors. But after reading all of these posts, I don't think that is it. My symptoms are the slight noise first, then (usually at slow speed stops), the ABS activate, the warning bell sounds, and on comes the light and fault message. It can stay on for minutes, hours, or days at a time, and then can stay off for the same. Also heartbreaking to know that Chevy isn't doing anything to help us out. I pride myself in buying American, but this doesn't help to bolster my reasons for doing so. I guess I'll watch for updates on this site from now on. Thanks.
#353 of 379 Re: ABS Fault in 2005 Colorado Z71 Crew cab [pequea]
by gmcustsvcsarah
Aug 08, 2012 (10:18 am)
Have you had this looked into by one of our GM dealerships in addition to your mechanic? I understand if this isn't a viable option, just wanted to let you know we'd be willing to follow up on any diagnoses performed with us.
Sarah, GM Customer Service
#354 of 379 Re: ABS Fault in 2005 Colorado Z71 Crew cab [pequea]
by brewerguy
Aug 09, 2012 (5:59 am)
Pequea, Please ignore any answers from "GM Custsvcs" on this site. They have no genuine intention of getting your problem fixed. If you go back through the pages here, you'll see what I mean.
Now, as for your ABS fault problem: I've experienced the same things with my 2005 Colorado for several years now, and have learned to live with it. The ABS Fault indication always goes away when I shut the ignition off and start up again. Until the vehicle becomes totally inoperable because of this, I'm gonna keep on driving it. I really do like my truck and have had no other problems in 7 years other than an oxygen sensor replaced. It really causes no safety concerns for me as long as the brakes work, especially when I read here about folks who've paid thousands of $$ to have the ABS system "fixed" and are still getting the fault code. You ought to consider the same thing. Good luck.
#355 of 379 GM Tactics
by kpo
Aug 09, 2012 (7:00 am)
brewerguy and pequea,
Listen to all of the Colorado owners who have tried to be honest and fair with GM. The GM Serv Reps and GM don't do anything but use delay tactics. 'Tactics, then, are isolated actions or events that take advantage of opportunities offered by the gaps within a given strategic system.' Their strategy is to wear you down with delays, expensive diagnostics at the dealer, and multiple statements or comments of "I'm sorry" followed by a explanation of why GM (Chevy) Will Not do anything with the design and manufacturing flaw that they continued to create and manufacture for several years and that still exsists with the Colorado ABS Failure issues.
Chevy Runs Deep!?? How about: Chevy runs away! or Chevy runs deep into your pocket!
#356 of 379 Truth
by kpo
Aug 09, 2012 (7:09 am)
The last post is not only an angry Colorado owner, but also someone who is not afraid to tell the truth about a situation with a greedy, self serving and profit-only motivated bureaucratic corporation. Could their lack of customer focus and loyalty be the reason why they almost went Bankrupt. What goes around, comes around. You sew what you reap.
KPO