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#834 of 3623 Did Toyota Hide Life-Saving Information?
Feb 05, 2010 (4:45 pm)
Did Toyota Hide Life-Saving Information?
The secretary announced a new probe of the Toyota electronics system that links the gas pedal, through a tiny computer, to the throttle.
Some experts believe there is a software glitch or that the computer is susceptible to electromagnetic waves.
"It's the electronics, it's not the pedal," said Keith Armstrong, an an electromagnetic interference expert who was interviewed just this week as part of the new federal safety probe of Toyota.
Toyota's top executives have repeatedly denied there is any electronic problem that could cause their cars to speed out of control.
Toyota's U.S. president, Jim Lentz, told ABC News on Monday that he was "confident" there is no electronic problem.
But a former top Toyota lawyer who left the company in 2007 says the company cannot be believed, that officials in Tokyo give orders to hide evidence of defects that could be damaging to the company.
Four people were killed on December 26th last year when a 2008 Toyota Avalon crashed through a fence and landed upside down in a pond in Southlake, TX.
#835 of 3623 Re: After NHTSA investigator hired by Toyota, serious unintended acceleration [revit]
Feb 05, 2010 (5:01 pm)
>Scott Yon met with two former colleagues (including Chris Santucci) who left the government to work for Toyota. Santucci testified back in December that the limited scope of investigations "worked out well for both the agency and Toyota."
But it hasn't worked out well for those in accidents and those who died.
#836 of 3623 Terror on the Roads - We Will Never Forget...
Feb 05, 2010 (5:27 pm)
We Will Never Forget...
California Highway Patrol officer Mark Saylor was driving a 2009 Lexus, on loan from his dealer, with his wife, daughter and brother-in-law in August 2009 along a highway outside of San Diego. (ABC News)
Saylor's brother-in-law, Chris Lastrella, was also in the car and called 911 when the car took off on them. Chris told a 911 operator that the accelerator was stuck and the brakes were not working. (ABC News)
All four people died after the Lexus hit a vehicle, crashed into an embankment and burst into flames. (ABC News)
Toyota said the accident was caused by a wrong-sized, all-weather rubber floor mat in the car that was pushed down and caught the gas pedal, holding it down. (ABC News)
The funeral procession carrying all four hearses with the caskets of Mark Saylor, his wife Cleofe LaStrella Saylor, their daughter Mahala Saylor and Cleofe's brother Chris LaStrella left the Corpus Christi Catholic Church en route to Glen Abbey Memorial Park for internment after services. (PEGGY PEATTIE/Union-Tribune/ZUMApress/Newscom)
#837 of 3623 Re: Terror on the Roads - We Will Never Forget... [revit]
Feb 05, 2010 (5:34 pm)
Better be careful. I got called derogatory names for reminding people of that horrible accident. That could have been avoided if Toyota and Lexus were a bit more proactive in their pursuit of perfection. Especially in keeping their dealers in line and informed.
#838 of 3623 Re: Terror on the Roads - We Will Never Forget... [gagrice]
Feb 05, 2010 (5:49 pm)
That could have been avoided if Toyota and Lexus were a bit more proactive in their pursuit of perfection. Especially in keeping their dealers in line and informed.
Yes, exactly. Nothing wrong with stating the truth. Unfortunately, meaning times people just don't like nor can they handle it. Like Toyota, most of their life is spent in denial.
#839 of 3623 Re: Remember the 1990"s Audi [lzc]
Feb 05, 2010 (6:01 pm)
You are welcome. It appears this is one of the consumer watchdog agencies. The head of this agency seems to be quoted many times by newspapers. That is how I discovered site..
The second report I finally did read, but have not completely analyzed yet. Actually found some interesting observations. Incident reports when a owner on voluntary basis only files - seems DHTSA investigations/possible investigations complaints have been restricted as to what UA incident is. And was per Toyota request so actual numbers are much less., and lots are ignored - with this site challenging. They do show some conflicts of what DHTSA states, and what the actual owner's reports show. The experts statements about the quality of DHSTA investigation appears good. But don't even claim to know who they are.
Yes, they do appear to be after Toyota this time, and appears to be after DHTSA for not doing thorough enough investigation. If what this site claims is true and factual, I did see faulty DHTSA investigation research present. If you go to their article Sudden Acceleration it mentions many manufacturers.
To be objective & fair to this site, I do see they will go after any manufacturer. Also see they say UA problem is not just Toyota.
"The same problem exists with the current recall of gas pedal assemblies. They haven't been connected to single accident."
I am not sure. But have seen this claim too..Note second Report from that site has many complaints at the end.
Just passing along for everyone to review. compare. Just me trying to look at all I can find.
I am just listening to CNN and past head of DHSTA is on. She states DHSTA has not been investigating well. Etc. Shucks missed rest of interview. H-mmmm
You mention "powers to be" - as in NHTSA? Have seen lots on DHTSA - seem to be in protective mode too. Guess they have to be kept honest too.
#840 of 3623 Re: Pre crash responses [kernick]
Feb 05, 2010 (6:25 pm)
I spoke with my son and he was not sure if ignition switch of my particular model was connected to a computer board. But said it sure could be. His expertise is Porsche, BMW, Bentley, VW,etc. No help unfortunately.
Hopefully all systems would not shut down/lockup at once.
I do agree would sure be nice to see a simple manual emergency vehicle shutdown switch.
#841 of 3623 Re: Did Toyota Hide Life-Saving Information? [revit]
Feb 05, 2010 (6:56 pm)
FYI only - Friendly heads up
This link is Safety Report. Refer to UA incidents - as you go down in article reference is made as to what happened to this ex attorney for Toyota. Seems attorney in Texas asked for court order to produce Biller's files - possibly discovery - all records now under court seal. Seems 17 cases Texas attorney was hoping to pursue - dismissed in December. Seems like Toyota won. What happens to Biller now - and his case not sure.
#842 of 3623 Re: Terror on the Roads - We Will Never Forget... [gagrice]
Feb 05, 2010 (6:56 pm)
"...dealers in line.."
Sorry, we, the US public, are at fault there. US auto dealers have managed to get state laws passed that protect them from close oversight/directives and management by/of the manufacturers.