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#641 of 3623 Re: And Toyota thinks consumer still trust them by their word????? [kirstie_h]
Feb 03, 2010 (4:42 pm)
Toyota is going no where. I am tickled they implemented brake override system for all models starting 2011, maybe even earlier. Their stats for UA will go way down. The end result should be a win- win for Toyota and owners/consumers, but guess to be honest and objective - still ways to go- pending investigation. This has been a bumpy road. Lots of negative publicity.
Ford is coming back it seems. Saw the statistics in news.
I am hoping a brake override system update might be avaliable for me to purchase and have flashed into my 2006 RAV4.
#642 of 3623 Re: And Toyota thinks consumer still trust them by their word????? [tlong]
Feb 03, 2010 (4:43 pm)
back in the 70's the government was more worried about 5 mph crashes than 70 mph crashes.
run a '73 pinto into a pole 5 mph and do the same with a new Camry (or just about any other currently produced car) and see which one ends up with more damage.
#643 of 3623 Re: if you go over to the car shopping forum... [explorerx4]
Feb 03, 2010 (4:46 pm)
Where is the open letter???
#644 of 3623 Re: Pre crash responses [kernick]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:05 pm)
Yes, we have dealt with these very same issues in our medical clinic setting. Statistics seem to support concept. Human reactions in emergency situations must be takien into consideration.
#646 of 3623 Re: And Toyota thinks consumer still trust them by their word????? [revit]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:22 pm)
The winky should have showed you that the question was rhetorical and that it was tongue-in-cheek. AND it was not directed at you, but in response to the mod's use of that particular tag line. I'm wasn't trying to make a quality comparison between the Pinto and the Camry - I didn't mention Toyota at all.
#647 of 3623 Re: on this day in history [fezo]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:22 pm)
Whats new just the last two weeks Senators, Cabinet members spoke out of place or but there foot in there mouth. Why should he be any differant but thats not some people want to hear.
#648 of 3623 Re: And Toyota thinks consumer still trust them by their word????? [revit]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:31 pm)
Careful...... JD Powers also praised Daewoo at one time
#649 of 3623 Re: that's exactly why we take risks. [revit]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:51 pm)
that's exactly why we take risks.
"Yes, I definitely agree that be the case when anyone gets into a Toyota now a days. They went from be above all other automakers to one of the most unsafe cars on the road today."
You take a risk when you get out of bed every morning.
Go out and drive that Camry. You'll enjoy it. The risk will give you a rush!!!
Or give it to me. I'll even come and pick it up!!!!
#650 of 3623 Re: Pre crash responses [sharonkl]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:57 pm)
I design processes in factories that incorporate mxers that turn at more than 2,000 rpm, use 480V service, use air to move materials. We have had instances where someone has gotten clothing caught in a machine, or a spill of flammable liquid was occurring, and we may have workers who are just being trained.
In all cases we setup the equipment such that a single button will trigger things to close. Basically think of an E-Stop as the props holding a sliding door up in a hallway. The E-Stop "kicks the props out" and the door slams shut. Now picture if that door is in the fuel-line heading into the engine. Let the door shut and the fuel system losses any pressure, and the engine immediately coughs and shutsdown.
In most of the valves we use, a power source holds the valve open, while springs in the valve are constantly trying to close it. The E-Stop kills the power, and the springs close the valve. Simple and fool-proof.
Machine vs. fool-proof designs. An equipment supplier once provided my company with a machine that has sensors that look at a container with some optical sensors and then rotates the container to be right-side up. Works fine most of the time, until a sensor gets a little dust on it, or gets misaligned, or the CPU locks-up, and the mechanism sometimes can get jammed. A lot of relays, sensors and some moving parts. I didn't like these occassional problems and instead developed a peg system. The container is dropped in a chute that centers the container on a piece of clothes-hanger. The closed end of the container is heavier. The container always tips to the heavier side (Until a quantum-theory failure of gravity occurs ). Heavier side down = right-side-up! Much simpler and reliable then this over-engineered machine that was built.
I think in general we're going beyond "reasonable" with making our appliances too complex in hardware and software.