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#594 of 3593 Re: Transportation Sec'y: Don't Drive Recalled Toyotas [millwood0]
Feb 03, 2010 (2:25 pm)
First of all thanks for addressing & responding.
(1)Costs - to have my auto flashed if brake override update available for my vehicle is questionable but may range from minimal - to $800+. Since my vehicle is Toyota I would can only guess cost would be lower range. Also since Toyota would actually own computer program - hope this consumer cost would be reflective of this fact. Would I spend $800 - yes. But this is what I would do.
(2)You not wanting a brake override is your own personal decision. We all have a right for our opinions. Thanks for letting me know.
(3)I own a 2006 RAV4 and am happy with my little vehicle. I paid cash for vehicle. I selected RAV4 because it suited my own personal needs. I needed room for two large wire kennels as I have two hunting dogs & go hunting, wanted good mileage, wanted reliability.etc. Money was not an issue or why I got a RAV4. I looked at all available SUV's. Did I know of issues with UA? No. I bought Dec, 2006. Will I keep my RAV4 - yes.
(4)Do I want to see if I can have brake override system flashed into my vehicle if available? Yes, I do. And since my vehicle is not being recalled I would have to pursue. As for recall models I am not sure what Toyota will be doing for sure. Have no idea if systems will be automaticaly flashed into autos?? Rumors were out there some recall models would get. Not sure if this is a fact. This is just my own personal decision. Others can make their own decisions regarding what they would like to do. They may feel using "how to stop your vehicle in UA incident" sufficient.
(5)RISKS - you are quite correct we must all decide what are our levels of risk tolerance.exposure. . . .
(6)VW - sorry I don't particularly care for VW at present. And models would not be what I prefer and would not meet my present needs. .
(7)Brake override systems - Toyota has already announced Nov. 2009 they will be installing on all their models in 2011. Maybe sooner. This is a Toyota decision. I applaud Toyota. But they did have to do something. Toyota had 40% of complaints. I am only hoping I may be able to purchase an update flashing with this feature for my auto.
(8)Toyota wrong car?? So far - my opinion is no. Is great for me -even with a 4 cylinder - even though some say "lacks power." Works great - and since can still climb Waldo Grade going 65mph at 3rpm - is fine for me. My son is polite, but know it probably drives him crazy to drive.
(9)UA - personally would like to see UA complaints finally addressed by all auto manufacturers & DHSTA, and effectively managed with a resulting decrease of incidents. Autos now full of electronics. With this comes the intermittant glitzes. And no trace left. And may not happen again. etc. etc.
(10)RECALL - objectively and personally would have liked to have seen Toyota immediately be more pro-active with media releases. Are they being totally upfront - can not honestly and objectively say for sure. None of us will ever know for sure it appears - all auto manufacturers investigations/analysis information is proprietary. DHSTA has relied always upon auto manufacturers investigations. Etc, etc, etc. Hope we all review the unraveling of facts, research well, and keep up with the news. Yeah - may get some of the other manufacturers that have higher complaints also - address as well.
#595 of 3593 Re: Toyota woes [silvercoupe]
Feb 03, 2010 (2:28 pm)
The Ford cruise control fix may be the largest by number. I cannot find any deaths related. Toyota has at least 19 deaths and probably more that were not attributed properly. Dead people don't get a chance to tell about their car racing out of control.
I took my 99 Ranger in for the cruise control fix. It was a wire with two connectors and a fusible link. I had never heard about the recall until I got the letter in the mail. Took the service manager less than 30 seconds to do the fix.
#597 of 3593 Re: Toyota Resisted Safety Fix [revit]
Feb 03, 2010 (2:41 pm)
Seriously, you sound like a broken record.
We KNOW you are doing EVERYTHING iun your power to drag Toyota down or "dance on it's grave" as our host pointed out.
We get the message, seriously, and trying to further scare people is like pouring gas on a fire.
#598 of 3593 Other Experiences
Feb 03, 2010 (2:42 pm)
I just had my washing machine repaired the other day. I have all these switches I can turn the washer do all sorts of things. The switches are connected to a computer-board. Well for some reason after 7 years the computer-board went bad; they do that after so many thermal-cycles, dust, and electricity-surges.
On Sun. I was turning that switch to get the washer to spin, I unplugged it to reboot the system ... no good. Basically every switch tied to that computer board is useless. It can be a hardware or software issue with machines that make you switches, or keyboard/mouse useless. Similarly turning a key in that ignition switch is not a very good solution if you have control-system problems/lockup.
#599 of 3593 Re: And Toyota thinks consumer still trust them by their word????? [revit]
Feb 03, 2010 (2:42 pm)
Why are you knocking your own car in a public forum? If you ever do sell it you might get sued by the buyer for knowingly selling them a dangerous piece of junk !!
#601 of 3593 Stopping an engine quickly.
Feb 03, 2010 (2:47 pm)
"What's the simplest, most reliable way to stop an engine from running?"
Short of an air strike, I'd say using a .50 BMG round through the block. It works for the military.
#603 of 3593 Re: Stopping an engine quickly. [beachfish2]
Feb 03, 2010 (2:52 pm)
I can see NRA supporting that idea: mandatory ownership and carriage of high power military grade rifles / machines in every vehicle.