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Toyota Halts Sales of Popular Models - Accelerator Stuck Problem Recall

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#573 of 3593 Re: Toyota woes [silvercoupe] by revit

Feb 03, 2010 (12:52 pm)

Replying to: silvercoupe (Feb 03, 2010 12:37 pm)
Toyota takes the Grand Prize in Recall; more last year than any other automaker; guess that is what they mean by Toyota Quality.
  
Do you have a link or source for this?
 
Toyota led all automakers with most recalled vehicles in 2009
 
And something tells me they will take the title again for 2010 and the way they are going, may take the Grand Price for the Largest Automaker Recall EVER...stay tuned!
 
The Detroit Free Press reports that there were 15.2 million units recalled this year – nearly double the 8.6 million vehicles that were called back in all of 2008. And the leader of the recall pack was Toyota, with a knee-wobbling 4.87 million cars and trucks recalled due mostly to the Japanese automaker's unintended acceleration issue. Toyota had nine major recalls in all in 2009, with the other big issue coming courtesy of rusting Tundra frames. Toyota took the top spot in recalls for the first time ever this year, which tells you as much about how bad 2009 was for Aichi, Japan-based automaker as it does about its history of making high-quality automobiles.
 
This year's second biggest offender? Ford Motor Company. The Blue Oval recalled 4.52 million vehicles to land in second place in the recall rankings, due mainly to the company's ongoing issue with cruise control modules. Without the years-old cruise control issue, Ford would have had posted best year ever. General Motors rounded out the top three, with 2.24 million recalls announced in 2009, thought it is worth noting that the Detroit, MI-based automaker's 17 total recalls was the most of any automaker. Chrysler actually had a good 2009 – at least when it comes to recalls – with just under 600,000 vehicles affected.

#574 of 3593 Re: Pre crash responses [millwood0] by jdm9

Feb 03, 2010 (12:59 pm)

Replying to: millwood0 (Feb 03, 2010 12:11 pm)
The odds would be against that not to have happened. But once again I just want to hear from any of those people as to whether it worked for them, to gain control of their car after UA. But does it not seem surprising to you that given the certainty of an impending crash that some people would not try shutting off the motor?

#575 of 3593 Toyota is going for a new record by revit

Feb 03, 2010 (1:04 pm)

In 2009, Toyota was after the best selling car and ranked up record sales, however for 2010, there is a slight change of plans...Toyota is going for the record of the Biggest Recall Ever.

#576 of 3593 Re: Pre crash responses [jdm9] by silvercoupe

Feb 03, 2010 (1:09 pm)

Replying to: jdm9 (Feb 03, 2010 12:59 pm)
But does it not seem surprising to you that given the certainty of an impending crash that some people would not try shutting off the motor?
 
Makes sense to me.
 
Drivers do make mistakes (I know I have), but it is much easier to blame the car. Especially with all the publicity about Toyota.
 
Looks like an ambulance chasers field day!!!

#577 of 3593 Re: Pre crash responses [jdm9] by millwood0

Feb 03, 2010 (1:18 pm)

Replying to: jdm9 (Feb 03, 2010 12:59 pm)
"But does it not seem surprising to you that given the certainty of an impending crash that some people would not try shutting off the motor? "
 
no. the number of incidents, reported ones at least, is very low (~100?). Of those folks, I don't know the extent of the 'malfunctioning'.
 
given the limited number of fatality reported in the news media, i tend to believe that many of those owners involved in the reported incidents got their vehicles under control - through braking probably.
 
shutting off the motor is a pretty extreme action, and I would imagine that a driver would only resort to that after s/he had exhausted other means - aka it would take a while for the driver to come to that conclusion, if s/he could remain calm at all.
 
and having a pushbutton switch doesn't help in those incidents.

#578 of 3593 Name Calling by sandman_6472

Feb 03, 2010 (1:24 pm)

This "name calling" and trying to top one another is foolish...most of the car companies have had "issues" and they've been resolved...case closed. This nonsense in here is useless...let's all just let Toyota fix the problem and let's move on shall we! There are so many other problems with no solutions in life, focus your energy in a positive way!
 
The Sandman

#579 of 3593 on this day in history by steve_ HOST

Feb 03, 2010 (1:24 pm)

Karjunkie over in Edmunds Answers found a great link about Audi's sudden acceleration problem.
 
Turns out that one of the lawsuits against Audi is going to trial in Chicago soon. 22 years after the original suit was filed (gotta have some appeals in there to liven things up).
 
The Swedes, unlike the US, Canada and Japan, blamed Audi's problem on the cruise control.
 
(Sandman, is that you? Speak up, I can barely hear you - you sound like a voice in the wilderness . Keep it up!).

#580 of 3593 Re: on this day in history [steve_] by fezo

Feb 03, 2010 (1:43 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Feb 03, 2010 1:24 pm)
I love the conflicting LaHood statements. Looks like he accidentally spoke what he really thought and now has to backtrack because that's not what the feds want us to hear.

#581 of 3593 Re: Toyota Resisted Safety Fix [oparr] by revit

Feb 03, 2010 (1:49 pm)

Replying to: oparr (Feb 03, 2010 10:33 am)
Someone stole the engine or the wheels?
 
No, the 2009 Camry just has this little problem...it likes to suddenly accelerate on its on and currently my dealership doesn't have the parts. To make matters worse, interest in the Camry has plummeted so no one would buy it and Toyota still cannot decide what is the true underlining problem.
 
Very poor quality Toyota!

#582 of 3593 Re: Info - pedal - Consumers Reports - analysis statistics [wwest] by kernick

Feb 03, 2010 (1:50 pm)

Replying to: wwest (Feb 03, 2010 11:03 am)
Have a microprocessor "watch" the existing brake fluid pressure sensor and the EFI PWM pulse width. If the brake pressure rises above a certain level and the PWM doesn't decline cognizant with the idle setting within a second or so then use a relay to OPEN the EFI or fuel pump circuit.
 
You must be an electrical engineer? I work with a guy who installs the automation systems and Allen-Bradley ladder logic, in our factory equipment. His answer to every design flaw is to add another sensor and more code. Guess what he still has a lot of work after years because there are still flaws, and he's the only one he understands the system right now.
 
Do you know electrical code though? And OSHA safety codes. What does an Emergency Stop button do? It kills the energy source to a machine. It disconnects the electricity, air, or fuel that is powering the device. When we hit an E-Stop electricity that is providing signal power is cut; that power was holding a valve open, which is constructed such that springs will close it if there is no power holding it open.
 
What's the simplest, most reliable way to stop an engine from running? A mechanical shutoff of the energy supply. Stop the fuel !! The engine will shutdown within a sec. or 2 (instantly in a high pressure DI engine).

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