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#51 of 3623 2010 Sequoia Recall
Jan 27, 2010 (3:25 pm)
My wife and I purchased a $55k 2010 Sequoia Platinum last month. Now we get the news that Toyota has stopped building them until they can figure out a solution on repairing the problem. Sounds as if Toyota doesn't even know what to do to rectify the problem..Talking about a slap in the face, we purchased the new Sequoia because we felt it was the safest SUV you could purchase. Now I am afraid for my family to even ride in it..I would like to just return it to the dealer and get my money back. Do we have any recourse? I can't stand the fact that we paid $55k for a vehicle that we are scared to ride in..
#52 of 3623 Re: 2004 Highlander [anythngbutgm]
Jan 27, 2010 (4:14 pm)
Yes you're right, only this 2010 MY is when the Highlander began to be produced in Princeton, IN. That's why also only the last two MY RAVs are included, these were built in Woodstock, ONT.
Prior to those MY's all were built in Japan. I expect a lot more will be built, like right now, in Japan as well.
#53 of 3623 Re: No Lexus? [wwest]
Jan 27, 2010 (4:16 pm)
No it didn't until it hit the embankment. You also have to look at the prior instance of UA on this vehicle just two days before. The older gentleman was able to resolve the issue by getting his foot under the trapped accelerator pedal and popping it away from the RX400 All Weather mat.
Then he drove safely back to the Lexus store. That's the smoking gun in that tragedy.
#54 of 3623 Re: Identify Accelerator Mechanisms [british_rover]
Jan 27, 2010 (4:19 pm)
All Avalon's are made in Kentucky, the VIN would begin with a 4T....
It should be involved in the recall but that info off the pedal may indicate a Denso part. As I understand it tho the parts are not easily interchangable, if at all.
#55 of 3623 Re: 2010 Sequoia Recall [glockfan]
Jan 27, 2010 (4:21 pm)
The laws in most states are pretty clear on these issues. You have to give the manufacturer a chance to rectify any problems. Normally I think that it's three different attempts on the same issue. Check with your state laws.
#56 of 3623 Re: Their five most popular models [wwest]
Jan 27, 2010 (4:35 pm)
If a sticking/binding accelerator were really the problem why wouldn't there have been numerous driver complaints to the dealers. Not many accelerator pedals are going to go from NO sticking/binding directly into FULL THROTTLE sticking/stuck.
How many of us would not notice, pay attention to, the fact that the accelerator pedal is sticking from time to time, occassionally... where are those complaints...ignored by the dealers..??
IMO, speculation, this is indicative of the real world situation.
Toyota has found that the condition becomes more serious and then accute after the CTS assembly is used and becomes worn. Then the assembly could begin to be 'sticky' which then might result in a completely 'stuck' condition. But this is only after wear has occured. I don't know how long CTS has been making these parts for the various models. Apparently only after 2005.
It may take 3 to 5 yrs before that assembly begins to become worn enough such that it begins to be 'sticky' or fully 'stuck'. More data is needed.
Thus new and newer vehicles may not be 'worn' enough to exhibit such conditions.
#58 of 3623 2006 RAV4-4cyl and 6 cyl.
Jan 27, 2010 (4:50 pm)
Just to give you guys some background. I had a 1997 Rav4 and had absolutely no problems with this vehicle for 10 years. In 2007 I decided to get a new vehicle and bought a 2006 Rav4 4 cyl. This car was an absolute POS. While on the freeway 3 times the car accelerated after I had lifted my foot off of the pedal. The first time I freaked and the only solution that I found that worked was putting my foot under the accelerator and jerking the pedal up. This worked every time. After 3 months I decided the 4 cyl was soo bad-not due to the acceleration sticking-but that the car wouldn't accelerate fast enough onto the freeway here in Las Vegas. I traded it in for a 6 cyl Rav4 Sport and that fixed the acceleration onto the freeway, but I had 2 instances of the accelerator sticking. Again I had to use the technique of putting my foot under the pedal and jerking the accelerator pedal up. In both these Rav4's the mileage was between 15,0000-20,000. Well below the 35,000 mile mark. This year I got sick and tired of 1) filling up the tank twice per week 2) having a 3 year old vehicle that was in the repair shop 4 times since purchase and 3) spending a fortune on tires due to the Sport version have 18" tires.
I will NEVER, EVER purchase another Toyota in my life. Toyota has gotten too big, too fast and they're quality has gone down hill. I notice that the only Rav4's on the recall list is 2009-2010. This problem with the Rav4 has been happening since 2006-a redesigned model year. This accelerator problem has been reported on Rav4 forums since at least 2007 when I bought my 2006 Rav4 4 cyl.
I guarantee that Toyota knew about this problem and decided to weigh the cost of recall vs. the cost of lives and decided that it would cost more to recall. This was until word got out that acceleration sticking was happening more often and the press decided to do a story on the people who died.
I just wonder how many more people who were like me and never reported the problem?
#59 of 3623 Re: Their five most popular models [nippononly]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Jan 27, 2010 (5:09 pm)
The reason Lexus isn't included is because they are still built in Japan, except the RX. Why isn't the RX on the list? I would be curious to know.
This may be the reason:
"Scion and Lexus vehicles are not on the recall list simply because these cars are imported from Japanese plants where Denso pedals are exclusively used. The one exception is the Lexus RX: It is built in Canada, but the pedals used there reportedly come from Denso."
Toyota Pedal Recall Update #3 (Inside Line)
Jan 27, 2010 (5:49 pm)
ABC News tonight did another piece on Toyota. They went to Japan where they were told by people Toyota sent out that they couldn't film the headquarters. They eventually got to talk to someone representing Toyota who made a questionable statement. The Japanese wore masks as if they felt the Americans might have a contagious disease they brought with them.
Then they showed a New York showroom and the manager told them all he could do was tell them to leave and he got up to escort them out of the showroom.
ABC News played up that Toyota acted like they quit selling voluntarily while they had been told by Ray Hood's Transportation department that continuing was illegal.
ABC News also made a serious criticism of Toyota's telling people to continue driving their vehicles with the sticking pedal defect. ABC News indicated that would be dangerous to drive the cars.
I didn't get a good feeling from their piece tonight about Toyota's willingness to lay it all out. ABC News seemed to have something that they weren't telling.