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#3595 of 3623 accelerated while parking 2004 Matrix - totaled
Aug 23, 2013 (8:40 pm)
I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this as it does not exactly within the year/models noted. But, I've been doing research on my own.
Approx 3 weeks ago, while turning into a parking stall in a small lot, my 2004 Toy Matrix suddenly accelerated and I could not stop it even quickly checking to make sure I had the brake pedal pressed, not the gas. The car slammed into a concrete building and the insurance totaled it. There was approx 110 K miles on it.
My research has been extensive. What I have learned is that it is neither the floor mats nor a sticky gas pedal that i causing the problem. Both a NYT article and research by Safety Research http://www.safetyresearch.net/ believe this problem is an electrical one. Specifically, the computer/s used. Note that after the recall of, and replacement, of mats and gas pedal, this problem continues. Even in cases when the airbags deploy and the black box engages, there is nothing recorded on said box during these episodes. As one of my contacts above said, "You can't record an electron."
The recall for models and dates as posted do not correspond to the actual data collected.
I am having problems with Toyota Corp. I was advised to notify them about my accident, and did so. I was assigned a "Case Manager" (good grief!), who contacted me by email. I attempted to respond, but replying to his email resulted in a bounce back. Unidirectional communication. Phone calls impossible. I was not immediately available when he called, and when I returned call even within a few minutes, he was "not available", "out of the office", and no one knew when he would be available. I'm not sure what a "Case Manager" does ... at least one that is not involved in health care, but have given up chasing this guy around.
One thing that I learned from my contacts: Despite the vehicle being a problem, your insurance rates will go up. I will likely have to go to court over this issue.
Another thing: One organization says that the sudden acceleration most often occurs on highways OR IN PARKING LOTS!!
There is more, but I will stop for now.
#3596 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [gagrice]
Aug 23, 2013 (8:49 pm)
There is nothing that I can find about this trial that is available doing a search. I've been waiting for something. Anything. But there's zip. Have you found anything?
Don't know how many of you read about "driver error" being the alleged problem. This trial is important ... for all of us. I wish that I lived closer to LA, so that I could attend and report back.
#3599 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [Stever@Edmunds]
Oct 25, 2013 (6:40 am)
So Toyota has already paid out $1 billion in hush money. With 100s of cases to go. Looks like their attorneys will be able to retire on just the Toyota lawsuits. I noticed the other day the Bob Baker Lexus is not anymore. They are now part of El Cajon Toyota. I think the lawsuit against Bob Baker is ongoing. They did cause that accident that killed the cop and his family.
#3600 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 25, 2013 (7:21 am)
Bob Baker recently lost an appeal in their case to dump their liability onto Toyota/Lexus.
#3601 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [Stever@Edmunds]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Oct 25, 2013 (7:41 am)
that's an interesting decision. I can't quite grasp why the dealer would be held responsible for an alleged factory defect
#3602 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [MrShift@Edmunds]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 25, 2013 (8:01 am)
That's the case where the dealer put the wrong floormats in the loaner car. My memory is fuzzy, but they may have even stacked two sets of mats in there, and another customer had previously complained to the receptionist about them.
#3603 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [gagrice]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 25, 2013 (5:25 pm)
Toyota settles the Oklahoma one before the punitive damage phase began.
Toyota Agrees to Settlement in Fatal Acceleration Crash (NY Times)
"Toyota agreed on Friday to a settlement with the families of two women in a fatal crash the morning after an Oklahoma jury became the first to find the company responsible for the unintended acceleration of a car.
The verdict came after Toyota had won its first three trials over the acceleration issue. Legal analysts said it could embolden plaintiffs in hundreds of other lawsuits that have been filed against the automaker.
The case is also significant because it is a verdict in a jurisdiction considered to be conservative, and the amount of compensation awarded is substantial."
#3604 of 3623 Re: First SUA case goes to trial by jury [Stever@Edmunds]
Oct 25, 2013 (6:43 pm)
They put a heavy set of rubber floor mats from an RX into the ES350 which was blamed for the uncrontrolled acceleration and high speed crash killing all four occupants. Toyota did accept $10 million in responsibility. Of course that was a "no fault" settlement.