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#3541 of 3593 Re: Not the only ones [larsb]
May 18, 2011 (12:08 pm)
"when stopped, in gear, you need to have your foot on the brake, firmly.."
Rapidly becoming an urban legend, that.
Almost all modern day vehicles rolling off the production line have "hill start", often referred to as "hill hold".
With the advent of more ROBUST torque converter lockup clutches the torque converter, LITTLE used torque converter, was down-sized, made less powerful.
So, now, on level terrain the TC will often not have enough coupling at idle to move the vehicle. Conversely it also does not have enough coupling to hold the vehicle stationary when stopped on a uphill facing incline.
Move your foot from the brake pedal on the way to placing it on the gas pedal, the car rolls, begins to roll, and "Hill Start" detects the roll and automatically applies the brakes.
Now when you finally get your foot to the gas pedal and apply pressure the brakes have been applied so there will be a slight delay in the DBW system's response to the gas pedal pressure.
Some vehicle's flash the TC light and activate a short beep to make the driver aware of what just happened.
#3542 of 3593 Re: who are you going to blame? [steve_]
May 18, 2011 (7:37 pm)
HaHa I find this hilarious. I was one of the passengers in the cobalt. I sustained serious injuries from the lady driving the toyota sienna. The immigrant decided to cross the freeway and stop right in the lane that we were driving in. There was no steering issues with the cobalt and there wasnt even anytime to swerve out of the way. Her van got T boned and it was 100% her fault. Cobalt was a great car. No problems
#3543 of 3593 Re: who are you going to blame? [jennicav]
by steve_ HOST
May 18, 2011 (7:55 pm)
Wow, I'm amazed you found us! (surprised that one of the links still works).
Hope you are mending ok.
#3544 of 3593 Re: Not the only ones [wwest]
May 19, 2011 (7:45 am)
Regardless of any technology advances.....
Your right foot is sitting there doing NOTHING anyway when you are stopped at a light - so why not burn a few calories by holding the brake down, instead of relying on some "mystery technology" to keep you from rolling forward?
That's how it's still taught in driver's ed, and how it SHOULD be taught.
#3545 of 3593 Re: Not the only ones [larsb]
May 19, 2011 (8:24 am)
"..how it's taught..."
Yes, but you must move your right foot from the brake to the gas pedal and that "time" is what is giving rise to the new technology.
Oh, and speaking of "new" technology, there was a time in not to distance past when 2-foot driving, clutch/braking/gas, was REQUIRED.
Speaking of which how many of us, how often, shift a manual into neutral in order to give our clutch leg a rest.
#3546 of 3593 Re: Not the only ones [wwest]
May 19, 2011 (8:24 am)
Correct - but in the 3-foot days, the driver's right foot was used as it is now - for the gas and the brake. Not for the clutch and the brake.
May 21, 2011 (1:49 am)
larsb. Even if my car had that new-fangled technology I would still hold down the brake with my right foot until ready to move forward.
Or backwards. Whichever I wanted to go. So there.
#3548 of 3593 Re: Not the only ones [larsb]
May 21, 2011 (7:38 am)
"...in the 3-foot days..."
Again, just where did you say you were from....
May 23, 2011 (1:34 am)
does he have any Sasquatch's for friends, too? Chilliwack, B.C. is a Sasquatch hotspot just fyi.
" in the 3 ft days..."
Interesting comment larsb!
#3550 of 3593 Re: Zacilackily... [iluvmysephia1]
May 23, 2011 (8:09 am)
That's the spirit !!!