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Jul 30, 2010 (7:09 am)
> don't plan to buy any TM. How many more recalls will surface now that toyota is being watched closely?
It's stuff like this that has been surfacing in the toyota discussions elsewhere on Edmunds that should create angst in anyone investing in toyota with the ADRs or buying the vehicle:
"Took my 2007 Camry SE (17,600 miles) to Toyota dealer service today.
When going down a steep hill at freeway speeds and applying brakes, steering wheel shakes and car starts shuddering. Serviceman say probably rotors.
I say "already?" Calls later and tells me a new, improved brake pad has been developed which he recommends replacing. I asked when "new, improved" pad was available? Answer: JUNE 2009. Why am I only hearing about it now that my warranty expired 4 months ago? It was on a technical bulletin but not a safety
issue so they don't have to inform customers. Oh well, they don't tell us when it's a safety issue until xxxxxpeople die, right? $58. for pads on front; $175 labor;
$58 pads on back $175 labor. This is my 6th and last Toyota.
Please don't tell me to go to another dealer; 60 miles down steep hills.
Just wanted to post this for others and the guy who had his rotors repaired 9 times. BEWARE.
Leaving here now to go buy a new car. Any suggestions????? "
This is occurring in the toyota discussions more and more along with the Honda discussions on Odyssey trans problems (surprise?) and in VCM discussions.
Jul 30, 2010 (7:23 am)
The source of the article is
93 And Counting
Michael Fumento, 07.30.10, 07:40 AM EDT
Forbes Asia Magazine dated August 09, 2010 \
Hmmmm. An Asian-oriented magazine. I wonder what side he will take? Hmmmm.
Also, it's funny to have a media magazine criticizing the media for not fact-checking? Where were they on "fact checking" during the last prez campaign!?
Jul 30, 2010 (7:26 am)
That article kind of pinpoints the fact that two sides are being taken by the media. Those that want to sell more papers are negative about Toyota. Those that want to sell Toyota advertising are biased in favor of Toyota. I think the findings by the Canadian NHTSA, is more telling than the article leaked to the WSJ and on to hundreds of other media sources.
Jul 30, 2010 (7:39 am)
>Those that want to sell Toyota advertising are biased in favor of Toyota.
That was going to be my next post!
#3366 of 3623 Re: [steve_]
Jul 30, 2010 (8:00 am)
hot opinions but no changing minds
Haaa, you think that happens anywhere on the forums?
No.. Couldn't be.
I just thing some topics seem to have it in spades. This is one of them. The luxury Hyundai thread is another classic.
I agree on how the media will slant things depending on which side their bread is buttered.
Jul 31, 2010 (3:37 pm)
Could you please e-mail me as I have a couple of questions about Fidelity.
#3368 of 3623 Re: Gagrice [sandman_6472]
Jul 31, 2010 (4:13 pm)
I tried emailing via Carspace and could not find you.
#3370 of 3623 Re: Toyota Halts Sales of Popular Models - Accelerator Stuck Problem Recall [gagrice]
Aug 02, 2010 (11:50 am)
It's funny to see that NHTSA can't find a single valid incident so far to be at Toyota's fault.
Release of Toyota Documents Blocked, Ex-Official Says
Since March, the agency has examined 40 Toyota vehicles where unintended acceleration was cited as the cause of an accident, Mr. Person said. NHTSA determined 23 of the vehicles had accelerated suddenly, Mr. Person said.
In all 23, he added, the vehicles' electronic data recorders or black boxes showed the car's throttle was wide open and the brake was not depressed at the moment of impact, suggesting the drivers mistakenly stepped on the gas pedal instead of the brake, Mr. Person said.
"The agency has for too long ignored what I believe is the root cause of these unintended acceleration cases," he said. "It's driver error. It's pedal misapplication and that's what this data shows."
Mr. Person said he believes Transportation Department officials are "sitting on" this data because it could revive criticism that NHTSA is too close to the auto maker and has not looked hard enough for electrical flaws in Toyota vehicles.
"It has become very political. There is a lot of anger towards Toyota," Mr. Person said. Transportation officials "are hoping against hope that they find something that points back to a flaw in Toyota vehicles."