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#3089 of 3623 Re: The list at the top of the page [beachfish2]
Apr 15, 2010 (7:24 am)
How about cleaning it up to make it accurate?
Toyota dealers are clueless about what is and is not being recalled. Better to have 2010 Highlander on the list and find out it is not one of the defective vehicles than the other way around. My Toyota dealer called me to bring in my 2007 Sequoia for the recall. I asked him what was being done. After 5 minutes of research he returned and said false alarm. He was wanting me to make an appointment to come in. 40 miles each way would have been wasted. Do you think he would have filled my tank for the trouble? Toyota customer service is near the bottom of the heap.
#3090 of 3623 08 Prius Brake Failure: Stroke Sensor Malfunction
Apr 26, 2010 (10:58 am)
Definitely hitting an oldie but goodie here. Not to beat a dead horse, but this thread came up as I was investigating a problem my daughter had recently with her 08 Prius and wanted to jump in with our details:
First off, a few caveats - I'm an Engineer, and have approached this in a typical engineering fashion. I'm not an automotive engineer, but I did do quit a bit of MechE studies and earn my living as a Software Engineer, and I've got a pretty good handle on both the mechanical and electrical diagnostics. In addition to the Prius, which my daughter drives, we've got a VW Bora, an Audi Q7 and a Porsche 996, and I'm constantly tinkering with all of our cars to find out what makes them tick and how to make them tick better.
On Saturday, 24 April 2010, my daughter was driving over Hwy 17 to Santa Cruz, CA when she rounded a corner and executed a panic brake due to completely stopped traffic. She was able to keep the car under control and avoid collision. ABS likely was engaged. It's likely that the Stroke Sensor failed at this point. One or more calipers continued to be engaged after she stopped stepping on the brake pedal. She drove another several miles in this state, and experienced brake fade when she tried to come to a stop at a traffic light. When she finally pressed fully on the brake pedal, secondary braking was engaged and the wheels locked. She fishtailed, but was able to maintain control of the vehicle and avoid collision. She immediately parked and called me. Vehicle was towed to nearest Toyota dealer. Diagnostics indicated a DTC C1247 Stroke Sensor Malfunction, but upon electrical reset all mechanical functions resumed normally.
Brake failures are pretty frightening, especially when it's your inexperienced teenage kid behind the wheel. However, I suspect that failures of this nature are fairly endemic to all regenerative braking systems. No extent of mechanical controls would be capable of balancing the engine and brakes, so you've got to trust these things to a computer. And I can guarantee you that all software has bugs, especially around edge conditions. It's simply impossible to test for everything, all you can do is document and learn from your field data.
That being said, I would certainly hope that these situations have been heeded and improved by Toyota. I'm reading stuff here that's five years old, which what appear to be ample field reports. Toyota needs to step up to the plate and take immediate action on this stuff, and stop dismissing it as Edmunds/GM propoganda.
#3091 of 3623 Re: 08 Prius Brake Failure: Stroke Sensor Malfunction [smadison]
Apr 26, 2010 (11:10 am)
All I can say is ....WOW!....another issue to worry about on my Prius.Here I thought it was only the UA that was an issue with Gen II Prius.
Thanks for the info.
#3092 of 3623 "This is not going away quickly."
Apr 27, 2010 (11:30 am)
I believe you need to reconsider your statement. It appears to have all but totally gone away.
And where are all of the wrecks that were predicted? Are folks just not reporting them? BWAAHAHAHA. After the first few dubious reports were exposed the stories began drying up.
#3093 of 3623 should i buy 2011 camry LE.
May 01, 2010 (9:44 am)
i would like to buy 2011 camry LE. please can anyone in this forum throw some light on what toyota did to fix the issues it had in earlier models. personally i like toyota cars but i am skeptical about the whole recall issue.
#3094 of 3623 Re: should i buy 2011 camry LE. [pochiraju]
May 01, 2010 (1:39 pm)
Toyota has yet to identify the problem so they haven't got a fix for it.
#3097 of 3623 Re: should i buy 2011 camry LE. [pochiraju]
May 01, 2010 (5:03 pm)
Careful you will get a lot of information or views from the far left or far right here you need to plow through it and come up with own decision. Lets see for starters a artical from Detroit hum they dont have any stake in Toyota falling. Funny you never saw an artical saying anything positive when there was no issue. Get the drift There is always a little truth in everything and a lot of BS depends what side is shoveling
#3098 of 3623 Re: should i buy 2011 camry LE. [obyone]
May 02, 2010 (7:38 am)
Pochiraju, true statement by obyone. There has been UA (unintended, or UNEXPLAINED acceleration) in some Toyota vehicles. Toyota has variously fixed floor mats (probably corrected owner stupidity), carpet (smoke and mirrors), and the accelerator pedal (bad design or more smoke and mirrors, the jury is probably still out on this item).
Toyota has been guilty of ignoring, denying, stonewalling, etc., most of the major problems that have occured in their cars over the last several years. Type in Toyota V6 VVTi Oil Line Scandal on Google to read about another can of worms.
By the way, I own a 2007 Avalon with the replaced metal VVTi oil line and no other issues to date. Probably the best car I have ever owned!