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#2978 of 3623 This article goes along with my theory on SUA
Mar 26, 2010 (6:15 am)
Power Lines Cited as Possible Cause of Runaway Toyotas
By Brian Wilson
Experts look to the sky for cause behind unintended acceleration.
The story is one you’ve heard before, the story of a Toyota that somehow malfunctioned and unexpectedly sped away.
Reverend Milton Allen remembers arriving on the scene moments after a 2005 Camry veered off US Highway 69 in Eufala, Oklahoma at a high rate of speed. Allen comforted the critically injured passenger, 70 year old Barbara Schwarz. Schwarz later died of her injuries.
Allen says, "she didn't deserve to die like that." He recalls that “she talked about how she kept yelling at her friend to slow down and try to get it to stop and her friend kept telling her it won’t stop it won’t stop.”
Schwarz’s family believes the fatal crash was caused by a flaw in the Camry's electronic throttle system. A lawsuit is pending.
While it’s not clear exactly where the Camry started to malfunction, the car passed under a bridge and several power lines shortly before impact. Big power lines that can generate powerful fields of energy.
Professor Paul Steffes of the Georgia Institute of Technology says "those invisible fields are caused by current flowing through the wire…also the electrical voltage on the wire creates a different kind of a field called an electrical field both are capable of creating voltages in other devices.”
Thirty nine suspected Toyota sudden acceleration deaths do appear to be loosely clustered around the heaviest parts of the U.S. electrical grid, but no definitive link between the two has been made.
#2979 of 3623 Re: This article goes along with my theory on SUA [gagrice]
Mar 26, 2010 (6:55 am)
This happened in 2005 and the lawsuit is PENDING?
#2980 of 3623 Re: This article goes along with my theory on SUA [mickeyrom]
Mar 26, 2010 (7:02 am)
That is common. They probably filed in 2006 or 07. Big Corporations will drag you on for years. My sister was hurt at a Walmart when a display was knocked over by an employee. She had to sue to get her medical bills paid. After 5 years she finally got the $5000. Toyota is no different than any other company. They will drag it on hoping you run out of money or die first.
#2981 of 3623 Re: News article from this morning [elias]
Mar 26, 2010 (7:04 am)
This 1 out of 10 theory means that 100 out of every 1000 Toyotas sold will have an UA problem.We have friends who have two Prius cars and one has 180,000 trouble free miles on it.Isn't that amazing? Not a singe UA incident.
I admit to a certain amount of apprehension driving my Prius,but I think that's from all the disinformation and sensationalism out there.
#2982 of 3623 Re: This article goes along with my theory on SUA [mickeyrom]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Mar 26, 2010 (7:29 am)
This happened in 2005 and the lawsuit is PENDING?
The Audi 500 SUA lawsuit is still "pending" in Chicago after more than 20 years (after a bunch of appeals, it's back before a jury).
#2983 of 3623 Re: This article goes along with my theory on SUA [gagrice]
Mar 26, 2010 (8:00 am)
>Allen says, "she didn't deserve to die like that." He recalls that “she talked about how she kept yelling at her friend to slow down and try to get it to stop and her friend kept telling her it won’t stop it won’t stop.”
I suppose some will claim that Reverend Allen is lying about what the failing lady was saying about the driver's not being able to stop the car. It will be just that the drive had the foot on the wrong pedal--he just didn't know the difference.
#2985 of 3623 Toyota .. Electronic or Mechanical
Mar 26, 2010 (9:46 am)
So Ive been away but could someone please get me up to speed by correcting or concurring with what I think it appears has happened in my absence. (3 weeks).
1.Toyota has gone on a publicity campaign to rightly or wrongly discredit/debunk any and all. Damage control is in full swing, the Toyota PR juggernaut has pulled out all stops and dropped the gloves in an attempt to salvage public opinion.
2.Toyota still refuses to admit the possibility of electronic UA. Prefering to blame on driver error/floormats.
3.There have been cases of what look like (unconfirmed) fraudulent attempts to take advantage of Toyota by staging UA.
4.There have been several new reported cases of UA that appear authentic.
5. Most people outside of Toyota and on this forum agree that electronic UA is at least a possibility and that the floormat recall is questionable.
6. There has been no concrete proof to suggest EUA is either impossible or possible.
7.Some Toyota drivers are still quite concerned (even though Toyota claims the odds of experiencing UA appear to be about the same as meeting a Martian) with the safety of driving their cars.
Is anyone here interested in seeing a video of the kill switch I installed in my new Tundra. It bypasses the computer, shuts down the engine. After driving the S Cal freeways over the last little while , I can see that it would require considerable driving expertise to utilize from the left lane of an 8 lane freeway but on anything less than 3 lanes it actually works quite well with minimal experience.
#2986 of 3623 Re: new pedal [skiguy02920]
Mar 26, 2010 (9:58 am)
With your history of loyalty, it will probably depend more on your personal relationship with the dealer and if they are willing to cut corners for you. If left up to Toyota, what matters is that it's cheaper for them to try the shim first.
Regardless, I think most people that have been following the Unintended Acceleration issue closely do not believe the pedal assembly is the actual cause anyway.
#2987 of 3623 Re: Toyota .. Electronic or Mechanical [jdm9]
Mar 26, 2010 (10:09 am)
That's probably a fair summary. Until someone besides Toyota has 1) the ability to analyze the data from one of these cars and 2) they actually get their hands on the car before Toyota, it will probably be a long time before anyone proves anything. The fact that there continue to be reports of UA from owners that already had the recall fixes applied does not seem to be getting much attention.