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#2387 of 3623 Re: ABC's Channel 10 News in San Diego Reports... [roho1]
Mar 11, 2010 (6:08 am)
That's funny because to me the majority of posters here are Toyota haters for various reasons mainly UAW sympathizers
You would be hard pressed to put me in that category. If you check the UAW thread you would see I am one of the most aggressive opponents of that bunch of scoundrels. And if I hated Toyota I would not have bought a 2007 Sequoia. I have never been a fan of Toyota dealers. They are not as concerned with after sales customer service. My best experience over the last 25 years is with Bob Stall Chevrolet and Drew Ford/VW. They both have given me excellent inexpensive service on vehicles I bought in other states and used in So California. My opinion of Toyota dealers goes back to 1964. While not the worst I have encountered. They were far from the best. Just below average. Exactly where they get rated every year by JD Powers.
That said, I think that Toyota did build some decent vehicles in the 1980s and 1990s. The quality went down over the last decade. Not all vehicles at once. I think the 2007 Sequoia was the last of the breed of quality vehicles. Most of my complaints are with cheap electronics from Denso. You know the company that builds their ECMs and other parts that could be responsible for UA. My experience is their Denso NAV made in India is a POC.
#2388 of 3623 Re: ABC's Channel 10 News in San Diego Reports... [kernick]
Mar 11, 2010 (6:14 am)
Or will the results be kept "secret"
I think that Sikes made a big mistake letting the CHP release his car to a Toyota dealer. The Toyota damage control people have already tried to smear the guys credibility by spreading his financial condition to all the media. That is what Toyota is paying Exponent BIG BUCKS to do. What chance is there the car will get an honest appraisal at a Toyota Dealer?
#2389 of 3623 Toyota 'smoking gun' memo
Mar 11, 2010 (6:24 am)
Toyota has been forced to hand a 'smoking gun' memo produced by its own factory workers to US investigators probing a spate of system faults.
The two-page document, sent to president of the company Katsuaki Watanabe in 2006, warned of systematic threats to car safety.
Damningly, it highlighted 'safety sacrifices' made as the company allegedly put profit before the well-being of customers.
The memo, written by a group of long-term employees, pinpointed inadequate development time for new models and a general drop in standards.
Authors claimed manufacturing was now done by 'amateurs' and that highly skilled workers had been sidelined.
They also predicted that the practices would eventually threaten the company's survival if changes were not made.
Toyota, the world's largest car maker, is facing a crisis of unprecedented proportions
A US congressional committee is investigating the crisis and demanded the memo, written in October 2006.
It was compiled by the 20-member All Toyota Labour Union headed by Tadao Wakatsuki, who had worked at the firm's Motomachi factory for 45 years.
The memo included points that:
— Between 2000 to 2005 Toyota was forced to recall more than million cars, a higher proportion of total vehicle recalls than other car makers.
#2390 of 3623 Seeking info. on stuck accelerator "fix".
Mar 11, 2010 (6:36 am)
I have a 2005 Avy that we love. It is among those recalled for the stuck accelerator fix where metal "shims" are placed in the accelerator pedal. I'd like to hear from anyone who's had this done to find out if this "fix" affected the feel of the accelerator, specifically, do you now have to apply more pressure to push the pedal down? Thanks, Jeffm5
#2391 of 3623 Re: Seeking info. on stuck accelerator "fix". [jeffm5]
Mar 11, 2010 (6:44 am)
Are you stating that depending on what another Avy owner says about the pedal and the pressure that's required to depress it would influence your decision as to have the recall done or not?
#2392 of 3623 Re: ABC's Channel 10 News in San Diego Reports... [roho1]
Mar 11, 2010 (6:47 am)
That's funny because to me the majority of posters here are Toyota haters for various reasons mainly UAW sympathizers of all types not to mention a certain Buick owner.
You are close. The majority are not UAW sympathizers or Toyota haters, they basically dislike the smug attitude of Toyota OWNERS.
#2393 of 3623 California Prius: Proof of Electonics Problem
Mar 11, 2010 (7:00 am)
It appears that most people do not realize that all Prius models come from the factory with Brake Override already designed in. Therefore this one event in California proves the problem has to be in the electronics. The CHP officer testified that he saw the man had his brakes on, and the officer could smell them. With Brake Override, it is supposed to be IMPOSSIBLE (not yelling, just can't find another way to emphasize) for one's foot to be on the brake and the engine remain at full throttle even if you are holding the gas pedal to the floor. The only way those two things can happen at the same time is if there is a problem with the electronics. The electronics operate the Brake Override function as well as have exclusive authority over the Electronic Throttle Control.
#2394 of 3623 Re: ABC's Channel 10 News in San Diego Reports... [jhinsc]
Mar 11, 2010 (7:41 am)
You should allow for the possibility that this UA problem somehow relates to the engagement or attempted engagement of cruise control. Most drivers only do that on the "open" road".
#2395 of 3623 Re: California Prius: Proof of Electonics Problem [carbuff1171]
Mar 11, 2010 (7:50 am)
BTO is NOT designed in...!
Only by default.
It's really that the HSD firmware is DESIGNED to take a different execution path when the brakes are used. The firmware is designed to enter the regenerative braking mode WHENEVER the brakes are used.
No question that the gas pedal should have been IGNORED with the brake lights on.
#2396 of 3623 black eye for toyota
Mar 11, 2010 (7:52 am)
I nearly bought two toyota vehicles in the past two years, i ended up passing on them for two reasons. The dealer was horrible, worst experience i have had. They were rude, and sleazy. The second reason was in the words of the sales manager " we are the best cars on the road, if you want a POS from another company go right ahead but we don't have to offer any incentives, you want the car or not we are not going to negotiate." Toyota makes good cars, don't let these recalls overshadow the point, but maybe these problems will be an eye opener for thier dealers. When i need another car i will look at toyota, but if thier dealers have the same attitude then i will say no thankyou...