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#2041 of 3623 Re: Toyota Safety Recall Received [sharonkl]
Mar 03, 2010 (3:57 pm)
Wouldn' get Explorer now, as want better gas mileage.
If you can unload your RAV4 without taking a beating the Escape from Ford is a better vehicle. Our good friends just got rid of their 2008 RAV4. Traded for a Tacoma crew cab. They like it much better. Said it rides so much better than the RAV4 and they feel safer. Not sure why. I have not mentioned the recalls. I do not like to alarm people not familiar with cars. I did make sure they were not using the rubber floor mats in the Tacoma.
#2042 of 3623 Re: Toyota Safety Recall Received [gagrice]
Mar 03, 2010 (4:48 pm)
Since I had an Explorer, did look at the Escape back then. Unfortunately cargo space too small for my two large dog kennels. I forget exact problem, but always had my tape measure with me.
I agree with you about the higher noise level inside Rav4. Not impressed. Vehicle does meet most of my personal needs. Some aspects I do not like. Next time will probably look at Ford too if this UA/SUA issue addressed, but will also look at what all manufacturers have out there. Etc.
#2043 of 3623 Re: Toyota Safety Recall Received [sharonkl]
Mar 03, 2010 (4:48 pm)
"..Ford did not roll back.."
We have come a LONG way in a very short time in that context.
For reasons of FE modern day torque converters do not have as much torque conveyence at low engine RPMs as did your explorer. That's why so many new vehicles now have the "hill-start" feature that applies the brakes automatically if the vehicle moves from a stop with the engine at idle.
#2044 of 3623 Re: The Saga Continues.... [gagrice]
Mar 03, 2010 (4:58 pm)
So Demoocrats were the ones causing some problems with NHTSA head appointment . I missed all that hoopla. Had heard Strickland is/was more for safety of consumers. We shall see.
#2045 of 3623 Re: Toyota Safety Recall Received [wwest]
Mar 03, 2010 (5:09 pm)
Many thanks for helping here. And I think I do recall my Explorer did have hill start feature. Smile - just the uneducated - but when you said it "ah yes". In San Francisco the hills can be very steep. Explorer never rolled back, and was great. Loved that aspect, and was why I mentioned.
Does Toyota have "hill start" feature on some vehicles now??
#2046 of 3623 Re: the $64,000 dollar question [sharonkl]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Mar 03, 2010 (7:44 pm)
We're all waiting to learn the prize parameters. I have gotten a couple of emails, and I'm not even anywhere near being in the loop, so the home office is probably getting lots.
I just posted in Toyota on the Mend about my tendency to play with my cruise control in town to tweak my speed, so I'm proposing to get rid of the accelerator pedal entirely and go to hand controls.
One deadman switch on the left control keeps the transmission engaged - let go and it shifts immediately to neutral.
The throttle switch for your right hand controls your actual speed.
If your foot slips, you'll only have the brake pedal to hit.
Wii for the car if you will.
May as well cut the check now and send it to me - brilliant eh? Solves SUA and distracted driving at the same time. No more mascara applying or eating burgers behind the wheel, and no more cell phone calls unless you have Bluetooth.
#2048 of 3623 Toyota's fix is a bust, owners claim
Mar 04, 2010 (4:35 am)
Toyota's fix is a bust, owners claim
Some Toyota owners have begun complaining that their vehicles suddenly accelerated even after dealerships made repairs to fix the problem, according to reports filed with federal safety regulators.
At least seven complaints, filed in the last two weeks with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, allege that after the recall service to modify pedals and replace floor mats the cars still surged out of control.
Although the allegations are unverified by the agency, they are a worrying sign that the nearly 10 million recall notices issued by Toyota may not fully address the problem of unintended acceleration -- which some believe is caused by problems in the electronic throttle system, rather than mechanical issues involving pedals.
NHTSA has said it will review Toyota electronics to see whether they are a potential cause, and the automaker has commissioned a private study of its throttle system.
The safety agency said that it had begun to investigate the new reports of recurring sudden acceleration on Tuesday. "NHTSA has already started contacting consumers about these complaints to get to the bottom of the problem and to make sure Toyota is doing everything possible to make its vehicles safe," said David Strickland, NHTSA administrator.
Among the other complaints was one involving a 2009 Camry in Massachusetts that "still does not respond immediately to de-accelerate" after the driver's foot is taken off the pedal, even though it was taken in under the recall Feb. 22. Another described a 2008 Avalon in Atlanta that was repaired but only a few days later "accelerated on its own and . . . did about 3 loops around the garage area of the home causing damage to the car, benches, tree, bushes, lamp post, etc."
Some consumers don't allege unintended acceleration but say the fixes created other problems in their vehicles.
A 2007 Camry driver from Sherrill, N.Y., for example, said that since the repair, the car idles fast in reverse, cruise control does not disengage properly and various check engine lights come on. The owner of a 2005 Avalon in Houston, meanwhile, said that following the recall service, his wife stepped on the gas and found that nothing happened, causing it to lose speed on the highway.
#2049 of 3623 Re: Toyota Safety Recall Received [sharonkl]
Mar 04, 2010 (5:11 am)
NEWS ALERT TODAY - Toyota will be giving $100+ million to help employees to be laid off at the Toyota/GM plant here in California. Seems Toyota made statement - wish GM would do something too.
Government Motors is not obligated to NUMMI or its employees any more since they went BK. NUMMI writeoff became part of Motors Liquidation Corp which means Goverment Motors has an excuse (surprised?) to wipe its hands of it. That was one of the high points of Lentzs trial hearing (Not many of them that's for sure). He came out and explained the Numi operation and when questioned by the Califrnia rep (forget his name) about "Stepping up and keeping the NUMMI open) he responded with something along the lines of "wish our partner would step up as well"...
#2050 of 3623 Re: Toyota Safety Recall Received [gagrice]
Mar 04, 2010 (5:16 am)
Depends on the model as far as ride goes. I drove a V6 Sport and the ride is not tuned for comfort at all. But the chassis and suspension tuning makes for a very entertaining drive, especially for and SUV. It is probably Toyotas most entertaining and sporty vehicle in the entire lineup.
But again it's not for comfort and the interior is not even close to luxurious by any means.
With that said, I can't see how it a Tacoma truck would be a better ride