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#185 of 3593 Re: Toyota Denied Sudden Acceleration Problem For More Than 5 Years [revit]
Jan 30, 2010 (1:24 pm)
Toyota Answers Questions About the Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall
Toyota answers questions that we see you are asking about the sticking accelerator pedal recall. Please also looks at Frequently Asked Questions For Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall and Suspension of Sales on this site.
1. Is my car safe to drive until a fix is issued?
The condition is rare and generally does not occur suddenly. It seems to occur when the pedal mechanism becomes worn and, in certain conditions, the accelerator pedal may become harder to depress, slower to return or, in the worst case, stuck in a partially depressed position.
2. What do I do if I experience a sticking accelerator pedal before the fix is finalized? Should I bring my car to a dealer?
If you are experiencing this condition, immediately contact your nearest Toyota Dealer for assistance. No action is required at this time unless you feel you are experiencing this condition.
For details on what you should do if you experience a sticking accelerator pedal while driving, please review the Frequently Asked Questions For Sticking Accelerator Pedal Recall and Suspension of Sales on this site.
3. What is the actual issue affecting accelerator pedals?
In rare instances, there is a possibility that the affected accelerator pedal may stick in a partially downward position or slowly return to the non-pressed position.
4. Is there actually a problem with the vehicle’s computer/Electronic Control Unit?
Absolutely not. Toyota has never found an incident of unintended acceleration caused by the vehicle’s computer/electronic control unit.
5. Can I return my vehicle to Toyota if I purchased it in the five day period between the recall was announcement and Toyota stop sale on my vehicle? What are my options?
Toyota will work with customers who have concerns about their vehicles on a case-by-case basis.
6. How will Toyota handle fixing all affected vehicles in a timely manner?
Toyota is currently finalizing its recall remedy plans including a rapid deployment strategy of said remedy. Please continue to visit this site for updates on the recall.
7. Is this different than the Floor Mat Recall? If so, how?
There are two different recalls. Some vehicles are affected by both.
Sticking Pedal Accelerator Recall: The condition can occur in rare instances, over time, under certain environmental conditions - there is a possibility that certain accelerator pedal mechanisms may, mechanically stick in a partially depressed position or return slowly to idle position.
Potential Floor Mat Interference with Accelerator Pedal Recall: This condition is the potential for an unsecured or incompatible driver’s floor mat to interfere with or entrap the accelerator pedal and cause it to get stuck in the wide open position. Toyota has determined that this condition can occur in vehicles in which the driver’s side floor mat is not compatible with the vehicle and/or is not properly secured.
8. What if my vehicle is affected by both recalls? Which will be addressed first?
It is Toyota’s intention to remedy both at the same time.
9. Why are mechanically similar Lexus and Scion vehicles not affected by this recall?
The recall affected pedal is confined to one of Toyota’s suppliers. That supplier’s pedals are not used on Lexus and Scion vehicles.
10. Which models are affected by the sticky accelerator pedal recall/stop sale?
Toyota’s accelerator pedal recall and suspension of sales is confined to the following Toyota Division vehicles:
* Certain 2009-2010 RAV4,
* Certain 2009-2010 Corolla,
* 2009-2010 Matrix,
* 2005-2010 Avalon,
* Certain 2007-2010 Camry,
* Certain 2010 Highlander,
* 2007-2010 Tundra,
* 2008-2010 Sequoia
Highlander hybrids and Camry hybrids are not affected by this action and will remain for sale.
Further, Camry, RAV 4, Corolla and Highlander vehicles with VINs that begin with "J" are not affected and will remain for sale.
#186 of 3593 Re: Toyota Denied Sudden Acceleration Problem For More Than 5 Years [kdhspyder]
Jan 30, 2010 (1:59 pm)
For as much as you defend Toyota, you either work for them or own too much Toyota stock.
First Toyota said it was the driver causing the problem, then they said it was the floor mat, now they want you to believe the pedal. Come on, this has been going on for years now, either this some bigger coverup going on or they have been focusing too much of their effort on growth and ignored quality along the way.
Oh, and I really like the part of Toyota telling customers "if" they experience this problem, to bring the car into the dealer and they will fix. No they cannot because the so called pedal problem does not have a fix for existing customers yet as Toyota is more concerned about new sales so they are sending the pedals to the factories.
Sorry, but this is just another poor excuse by Toyota trying to address another one of their quality problems under the rug. Think you need to go back and read up on the history of the Rustundra.
Believe what you want, but seems this time Toyota has finally gotten what they have deserved, or should I say covered up, for years.
#187 of 3593 Re: Is it just the gas pedal ? [kdhspyder]
Jan 30, 2010 (1:59 pm)
The NHTSA since it couldn't find anything wrong in its own investigations decided that it had to do something in order to seem to be in charge. So it forced Toyota to do this bogus voluntary recall No 1 on reshaping the pedals and removing padding under the pedal. It placated the NHTSA.
100% bogus....toyota in fact was the one that jumped the gun and tried to tell the world that there was nothing to see here its just those darn floor mats again. nothing else ...just floormats. That is when the NHTSA stepped in and said "not so fast there amigo, if you think it is the mats than your going to do something about it. BUT we are still going to get the real culprit and you will fix that too"
Which is how we came to this latest gas pedal recall which is the real bogus issue because toyota admits that no accident has been caused by the "faulty pedal" .
So what is causing the SUA? Who knows, "cough software cough"
#188 of 3593 Re: What is Toyota doing?????? [wwest]
Jan 30, 2010 (2:07 pm)
>Because they are not yet sure the gas pedal assembly is the core problem.
So divert the public's attention in the same way a magician does.
I just read that the mechanism actually giving the position signal for the accelerator sensor is NOT the problem. That's what I inferred from the earlier toyo statements. A worker related to toyota said here that it's the brass bushings that jam. That is a different herring. So the bushings keep the actual pedal from returning to idle position. I find it amazing that toyota claimed the moisture presence affects the bushing and the axle within in their relative movement. The person in the disassembly video showed how strong the single return spring is.
#190 of 3593 Re: Is it just the gas pedal ? [maple2]
Jan 30, 2010 (2:11 pm)
Yeah, that is what I don't get, surprised Toyota didn't try issue a recall on the Floor Mats, oh, but wait, that wasn't even really the problem as they kept saying there was no problem and it was as a result of the driver.
The pedal fix is yet another attempt to avoid the problem. Come on, how many people are doing to have to die or be injured before this is actually addressed?
Presenting the new 2010 Toyota (doesn't really matter which of their models you pick):
#191 of 3593 Re: Is it just the gas pedal ? [revit]
Jan 30, 2010 (2:22 pm)
Come on revit, it has been years since Toyota turned down your credit ap for that new Echo. Time to get over it.
#192 of 3593 Autoblog has a good video on this subject..
Jan 30, 2010 (2:37 pm)
...with solid facts and recommendations with a knowledable source.
Here is the AutoBlog link with an unemotional explanation based on fact along with solid recommendations on what to do in any modern vehicle where this might occur.
video explanation of the potential CTS-made accelerator problem
We're all gearheads here at Autoblog, with varying degrees of mechanical competence. But when the time comes to get technical – really technical – we inevitably hit up our own Sam Abuelsamid to get into the nitty gritty of modern automobiles.
Sam spent the better part of two decades working on anti-lock brake, traction and stability control systems, which means he brings a particularly keen insight to the recent Toyota recall. So Mr. A sat down with AOL Autos' Reilly Brennan and the accelerator pedal from a 2009 Toyota Camry for an impromptu deep-dive into what's causing the unintended acceleration issue and what owners of the affected models can do if their throttle pedal is pinned to the floor. Check it out after the jump and be sure to share it with anyone you know who's manning one of the eight recalled vehicles.
While AutoBlog is in no way 'in-the-know' about this issue it does present a balanced and knowledgable explanation with a seemingly knowledgable representative.
#193 of 3593 Re: Is it just the gas pedal ? [houdini1]
Jan 30, 2010 (2:43 pm)
Come on revit, it has been years since Toyota turned down your credit ap for that new Echo. Time to get over it
Yeah, you wish. I went with the 2009 Toyota Camry, my first Toyota, and am seriously regretting.
#194 of 3593 Where did this come from?
Jan 30, 2010 (2:44 pm)
Someone posted this a few posts back apparent sent to toyota salespeople:
"4. Is there actually a problem with the vehicle’s computer/Electronic Control Unit?
Absolutely not. Toyota has never found an incident of unintended acceleration caused by the vehicle’s computer/electronic control unit."
I will predict that toyota will rue that statement also.
Is there a link for this post?
Is there expert data or facts to substantiate it?