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#1834 of 3623 Re: 2010 Sequoia Recall [glockfan]
Feb 27, 2010 (3:31 pm)
Unfortunately you probably just have to wait it out. Adding insult to injury, Toyota is using some of your $55K to squash investigations that would have helped the next guy. For future reference checking the NHTSA database, there is not a single recall on any 2010 Ford SUV models and there is just one across all 2010 GMC/Cadillac/Chevy/Buick SUVs (Equinox/Terrain: dealer fix to avoid the defroster not working properly)
Don't know if you heard Rhonda Smith's testimony to congress. Just like you all she wanted was her money back on her new Lexus.
Yesterday's news if you did not see it:
#1836 of 3623 Re: sharonkl... [iluvmysephia1]
Feb 27, 2010 (3:55 pm)
You are welcome. Smile - I sort of felt you were the "A" grade student/person. And you are probably a much more proficient and accurate typist than I am.
Actually I didn't have much knowledge about auto mechanics/engineering at all. Just have vested interest from owning a Toyota vehicle. Dug in, researched, etc. My son does do auto development/engineering though and he has helped alot. Many of the blogggers here have been patient and guided me along and have patiently put up with me. They have been wonderful. I have only tried to put all the real factual information together in the many year timeline - as pieces to a puzzle. Analyzing info as I and other coworker peers did professionally in meetings. Applied medical scientific study analysis approach to reports I have read, info with this situation. Does definitely work to discover any faulty aspects that may be present in a report. Engineering technical reports - I am totally lost. Have some insider perspective to corporations. Knowledge of CA corporate codes. Some knowledge of legal issues, lawsuits. Etc.
Words spoken and true documented facts sometimes conflict. Etc, etc, etc. Just keep trying.
#1837 of 3623 Re: Stop sale wasn't voluntary, as Toyota claims [sharonkl]
Feb 27, 2010 (4:47 pm)
In the '50's if you were watching TV and someone started a car up with ~100 feet you lost the sound for sure and maybe, just maybe, you could discern enough of the picture to make sense of it.
Then go back to the early 1900's and radio transmitters (morse code) consisted of high voltage/current spark gaps.
Those Toyota/etc A/C electromagnetic clutches, absent "snubbers", represent modern day versions of those 1900's spark gap radio transmitters.
#1838 of 3623 Re: 27,000 miles later... [dookie84]
Feb 27, 2010 (4:55 pm)
More like 3 or 4.
Yes, if this current Toyota situation had ocurred back in say, 1948, the Toyota president would have felt "obligated" to commit suicide. That culture is what makes Japanese management so diligent at producing a quality product, "Relentless Pursuit of Perfection, but on the other hand very motivated to avoid public admission of mistakes.
#1839 of 3623 NEW more "Robust" gas pedal?
Feb 27, 2010 (6:15 pm)
I read somewhere that Toyota and CTS had been working on a new more robust gas pedal (Presumably not the shim fix).
I presume they are using this pedal in the 2011's since production began again a few weeks ago. I also wonder if they are putting Denso pedals in the 2011's at the moment?
I wonder what this is...Anyone know?
#1840 of 3623 Re: Congressional Investigation Hearings Today [dookie84]
Feb 27, 2010 (6:32 pm)
EDR= Event Data Recorder
Many auto makers put them in cars. They give pertinent information on what is going on with the vehicle. Handy in discovery of accidents. Some legal issues like who the data belongs to. Toyota's EDR is very secret. They are the only ones that can download and decipher the data. I don't know of any other automaker that is not an open data source. GM has used them a long time.
The EDR in the 2009 ES350 that experienced UA, and 4 people were killed, was retrieved by the sheriffs office. It supposedly contained no readable data. That of course according to Toyota. I don't think you can believe a single word they say.
#1841 of 3623 Re: Congressional Investigation Hearings Today [dookie84]
Feb 27, 2010 (6:24 pm)
Event Data Recorder - During the hearings they explained that unlike U.S. manufacturers, Toyota encrypts the data in their EDR such that only their proprietary reader can read it. LaHood explained that there is only one "prototype" Toyota EDR reader in the U.S.
If the control computer gets as hosed as some theories suggest, it may be incapable of writing any meaningful data to the EDR, although the last 5 minutes leading up to "the event" would theoretically be there.
#1842 of 3623 Re: NEW more "Robust" gas pedal? [gizzer777]
Feb 27, 2010 (6:30 pm)
I don't know, but I believe that except for a few isolated examples, the whole gas pedal explanation is a red herring. If you listen to what actually happened to people (like the acceleration started when they tapped the brake, the car kept accelerating with the shifter in reverse, the engine would not shut off...), the gas pedal is irrelevant.
Feb 27, 2010 (6:46 pm)
U.S. lawmakers should intervene in an emergent-type situation like this. Perhaps this Toyota EDR information should be made to be public any time it is deemed to be needed by say...oh, I don't know, the police for instance! Anyone with a job that dictates they search for the truth in regards to the automobile's(or it's driver's) actions in any particular accident. Or SA of some sort, a stray floor mat, an accelerator pedal with a mind of its own. Oh, how complicated this whole coverup...I...I mean investaigation has come to be. Tethered and tattered Toyota has apparently been beaned by a Randy Johnson fastball that tailed up and away. Nice to see RJ finally retired. Enough mlb arrogance has been spun everyone's way from that tiger.
Talk about a high and mightier than other people automaker. I'm really starting to get the creepy-weepy's from these guys.
Or is this a Japanese cultural norm we're dealing with here? I am interested in how this comes out, not because I own a Toyota, but because I own my first Japanese car, a 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS. Kinda makes me a tad suspicious, know what I mean? We've already discussed how Mitsu execs falsified data in an earlier Mitsubishi recall. In some way. Not even to mention their failed idea to give every dork in America who wants a Mitsubishi an instant loan and 0-0-0 payback package. I can just see them smacking themselves upside their own heads in disgust when these fruitcakes started defaulting on their loans.
Having said that, Mitsubishi sure did a fine job building our 2008 Lancer GTS. Today I took it through some SE Arizona twisties below Dos Cabezas peak. The car steers accurately on a dime as you accelerate through the turns. The car is a pure and thorough joy to drive. I would be amiss to stray to Suzuki or BYD when my Mitsubishi drives and looks the way it does.