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#1173 of 3593 Did Toyota President Lie On National TV? by revit

Feb 10, 2010 (2:06 pm)

Article by Brett Emison
 
Will Toyota Guarantee Safety? Umm... no.
 
Mr. Lentz made some pretty remarkable comments. For example, Lauer's very first question asked if Toyota would guarantee that its fix would make Toyota vehicles safe. Lentz refused to guarantee the safety of Toyota vehicles following the "sticky" pedal fix.
 
When Did Toyota Learn About This Problem?
 
Lentz also said that Toyota first learned about the sudden acceleration problem in October 2009. However, Bloomberg News reported yesterday that Toyota knew about the exact same "sticky" pedal acceleration problems in Europe since August 2008.
 
I have documented here for months how Toyota ignored the sudden acceleration problem for more than five years.
 
What Causes Toyota's Sudden Acceleration?
 
Notably, Lentz also admitted that there are lots of issues and many facets surrounding the sudden acceleration problem. At one point, Lentz even began listing several ways in which sudden acceleration may occur. However, Toyota still is addressing only two of the many, many sources of sudden acceleration.
 
Toyota continues to deny and ignore the possibility that the problem lies within Toyota's computers and electronics. Since 2004, independent safety experts have pointed to problems with Toyota's electronic throttle controls as a source for Toyota's sudden acceleration problem.
 
Safety experts agree that this could be the tip of the iceberg and even more needs to be done. In fact, Toyota has not yet recalled some models or model-years with the highest rate of unintended acceleration complaints, such as the 2002-06 Toyota Camry. Toyota's failure to include these vehicles gives its customers and the public a false sense of security.
 
What Has Toyota Done In The Past?
 
As I have documented here for the last several months, Toyota has known about -- and ignored -- its sudden acceleration problem for more than five years. Instead of acknowledging and repairing this widespread defect, Toyota waited years to acknowledge the defect and instead blamed its own customers. This conduct is just more of the same for a company with a documented history of safety-problem cover-ups.
 
You Decide
 
Toyota's new ad campaign says it puts you first. Well, now "You" get to decide: Was Toyota's president being honest with the American public?

#1174 of 3593 Let the games begin by lzc

Feb 10, 2010 (2:45 pm)

Whatever the reason for UA, Toyota will be bogged down in lawsuits for years to come.
 
Toyota Seeks to Dismiss U.S. Lawsuit Over Electronic Throttles
 
By Edvard Pettersson
 
Feb. 10 (Bloomberg) -- Toyota Motor Corp., facing at least 41 class-action lawsuits over sudden acceleration problems, asked a court to throw out the first of those cases, saying the plaintiffs have no basis to sue.
 
Four of the plaintiffs in the lawsuit suffered no “legally cognizable injuries in connection with the alleged defects,” Toyota said in its dismissal request filed Feb. 8 in federal court in Los Angeles. Two others who claim property damage from sudden unintended acceleration aren’t representative of millions of Toyota owners, the company said.
 
Two California residents sued Toyota in November, claiming their vehicles, a 2004 Toyota Camry and a 2008 FJ Cruiser, experienced sudden acceleration because of the electronic throttle system. Four more plaintiffs were added to the complaint last month, and they seek to represent other Toyota owners nationwide in a class-action case.
 
Dismissal is also proper because the plaintiffs don’t say that Toyota failed to honor its warranty or to repair any allegedly defective components, Toyota said in the Feb. 8 filing. In addition, one of the plaintiffs hasn’t even claimed she experienced sudden unintended acceleration, according to the carmaker.
 
Toyota rose 0.3 percent to 3,385 yen at the 11 a.m. Tokyo trading break. It has fallen 19 percent since Jan. 21, when it began a recall of about 8 million vehicles on five continents to repair defects linked to unintended acceleration.
 
Brake-Override Systems
 
The plaintiffs in the Los Angeles case on Feb. 3 asked the court to order Toyota to broaden the recall to all models with an electronic throttle-control system and to install brake- override systems.
 
Toyota said in the Feb. 8 filing that a court order to prevent it from selling any vehicles with its current ETCS-i electronic throttle system is preempted by federal law. Such an order would usurp the role of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, which is involved in investigation the issue, the carmaker said.
 
David Wright, a lawyer for the plaintiffs, said he was still reviewing Toyota’s filing and declined to comment.
 
The case is Seong Bae Choi v. Toyota Motor Corp., 09-8143, U.S. District Court, Central District of California (Los Angeles).
 
To contact the reporter on this story: Edvard Pettersson in Los Angeles at epetterssonbloomberg.net.

#1175 of 3593 fixed today by neil5

Feb 10, 2010 (3:22 pm)

Avalon did pedal repair a little stiffer but same otherwise, they also did the oil supply line repair (TSB)..already had it done elseware but they did it anyways. I really believe it is the admin (NTSB) trying to lower the brand reputation to help GM and the big 3...now after Honda. Many other cars have had pedal issues (eg Ford explorer) we heard nada....on CNN and the major networks....

#1176 of 3593 Re: Let the games begin [lzc] by sharonkl

Feb 10, 2010 (3:48 pm)

Replying to: lzc (Feb 10, 2010 2:45 pm)
Yes, lawsuits are present already, more will come. I check market every day, and yesterday accessed Toyota here US - some listed. Not sure if what I saw were same as yours. I also saw report where there were cases where Toyota & owner c/o UA, etc. settled w nondisclosure terms. Not sure if I saved or not.

#1177 of 3593 Re: fixed today [neil5] by revit

Feb 10, 2010 (3:50 pm)

Replying to: neil5 (Feb 10, 2010 3:22 pm)
Avalon did pedal repair a little stiffer but same otherwise
 
Yeah, as you probably have heard now, the pedal really isn't the issue. Up next, Electronics...stay tuned for the next recall and its going to be a BIGGIE

#1178 of 3593 Edmunds releases NHTSA complaint data by lzc

Feb 10, 2010 (4:31 pm)

http://www.edmunds.com/help/about/press/161506/article.html

#1179 of 3593 Re: Brake override should end the problem [774] by sharonkl

Feb 10, 2010 (4:45 pm)

Replying to: 774 (Feb 10, 2010 9:22 am)
Seems like your vehicle is not one of those getting brake override during recall. They will be applying to 2010 models according to Toyota Newsroom announcements. How soon they get to I have no idea. This was in Nov 25, 2009 announcement.
 
Good luck!

#1180 of 3593 Re: Edmunds releases NHTSA complaint data [lzc] by newdavidq

Feb 10, 2010 (4:52 pm)

Replying to: lzc (Feb 10, 2010 4:31 pm)
Thanks for introducing some inconvenient fact into the discussion.
 
 The witch reference in an earlier post, as in "witch hunt", seems appropriate. Now we've got the congress involved, the slip and fall lawyers piling on, and of course the hysterical media (who are treating the east coast snowstorm like a snowy Katrina) in full shriek.
 
One is reminded of the Audi 5000 case where, if my memory serves me, was started by an elderly gentleman who ran over something or someone and turns out he stepped on the wrong pedal. Almost finished Audi in the US.
 
IMHO the flawed creature behind the wheel, not Toyota, is the primary culprit in this case as he is in 99% of all auto crashes.
 
Regards, DQ (a flawed creature who owns a Toyota 4R and is able to move the shift lever from D to N in the blink of an eye)

#1181 of 3593 Re: Edmunds releases NHTSA complaint data [newdavidq] by lzc

Feb 10, 2010 (5:00 pm)

Replying to: newdavidq (Feb 10, 2010 4:52 pm)
Without ruling out the possibility of a gremlin or two in the software, I enthusiastically associate myself with everything you've said.
 
Ignorance, fear and hysteria are not pleasant things to watch in action.
 
Even allowing for some rare electronic malfunction, cars today are remarkably safe and reliable. We should celebrate the progress. What's going on today is a feeding frenzy by those who profit by destroying.

#1182 of 3593 Re: Up Next - Toyota 4Runner [imidazol97] by sharonkl

Feb 10, 2010 (5:17 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Feb 10, 2010 7:48 am)
Thanks for sending along latest Toyota Camry Recall re: steering. I had heard it was coming. I just checked Toyota Newsroom announcements and did not find it. Maybe will be coming out soon.

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