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#273 of 488 Tire recommendation
Apr 10, 2011 (2:34 am)
I briefly enjoyed a Jeep Grand Cherokee 2011 Overland with the Off-Road Adventure Package and smaller wheels until it was lost in an accident. My observations: the stock Michilin Latitude non-HP tires are good but not great. See the evaluation on tirerack.com for the skinny on these tires. But if you replace them with Nokian WR G2 tires, the whole game changes. The tires become thoroughly competent in any weather including blinding rain and driving snow. Buy them. You will be amazed.
As for the JGC, it is a wonderful vehicle but has a fatal flaw - the 5-speed tranny. The car definitely needs an 8-speed tranny to improve both acceleration and fuel consumption. I can see how Chrysler wanted to get it on the road ASAP but it is not yet ready and needs better gas mileage, something that will be accomplished hopefully in the next two years.
Until then, it does not shake at any speed, is refined, quiet and comfortable, but needs drive train work.
Until then, I will stick with the Cruze and follow with rapt anticipation your communications with the board, etc.
#274 of 488 Re: On/Off Road Tire for Adven. Pkg. [new_jeepie]
Apr 10, 2011 (4:33 am)
I have JGC Overland with the 20 inch wheels. I am thinking about getting All Terrain or Snow tires. Tire Rack recommends the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 for a snow tire. Has anyone found (or can recommend) an All Terrain tire in the 20 inch size (265/50-20) that I can leave on the car all year and will be good in snow? I have had no experience with the original equipment Good Year tires in snow.
#275 of 488 Re: On/Off Road Tire for Adven. Pkg. [joeb24]
Apr 10, 2011 (5:59 am)
The Goodyear Fortera OE tire that comes with your GC is like any other Highway tire in snow. It is hit or miss in snow situations, even the goodyear dealers say that.
As for going with a dedicated snow tire, which folks do, the Bridgestone Biizzak DM-V1 is highly rated. Goodyear is supposed to be coming out with new sizes for their highly rated dedicated snow tree, the Ultra Grip series. Also, many consider the Nokian tires from Finland as top snow tire has your size as well and it is easier to find now.
With regards to the All Terrain, it is hard to find a decent tire in that size which is one of the reasons I went with the Adven. Pkg. I do know that many tire manufactures next month will be releasing new models and additional sizes. I would look into Cooper, Goodyear, BFG, Hankook and also Kumbu that I know of that will be able to assist you. Since I have 18" wheels, I never looked into it.
If I come across something, I will post the link. Best for now.
P.S. With dedicated snow tires you have watch your speed with some models so check the rating or ask the dealer.
#276 of 488 Re: On/Off Road Tire for Adven. Pkg. [new_jeepie]
Apr 10, 2011 (7:10 am)
Thanks very much, new jeepie. I used to use the Nokian WR G for my Subaru, and one could use it year-round (no tire switch in winter/summer). Do you know if the Nokian Hakkapelitta can be used similarlry, or is it a dedicated winter trie?
The Bridgestone DM-V1 has an "R" rating and TireRack said it should be safe to use on the JGC.
Guess we should repeat this conversation 6 months from now!
#277 of 488 Re: On/Off Road Tire for Adven. Pkg. [joeb24]
Apr 10, 2011 (7:59 am)
Nokain now calls the WR G the WRG2 SUV which can be used year round. However, I do not remember if they have your size yet or the WR SUV.
The Hakkapelitta is R speed tire as well. As for all year, they say you can, however, not recommended because during the summer months the hotter temperatures will make the tire compounds softer. Various reviews that I have read, those who live in the colder climates leave them on all year long if they do not travel south during the warm seasons.
The rule of thumb with an R rated tire is not go over 106 MPH for a constant period of no more than 30 minutes.
Best for now.
#278 of 488 Re: First 3,000 miles [xc90508]
Apr 10, 2011 (10:16 am)
The owner's manual states 8,000 mile intervals for service.
I did get an extended warranty that also includes service at 3,000 mile
intervals. I will keep the shorter intervals until the extended warranty expires. I don't know that I would go to 8,000 miles, but we'll see when we get there.
About 500 miles after getting the oil changed, the message center showed a message that an oil change was due.
If the message center shows oil change required at 3,500 miles, I don't know that I would shut the message off and wait another 4,500 miles for an oil change.
Any thoughts? Anyone else run in to that?
BTW, it looks like you can't shut that message off until it shows up.
It doesn't seem like it can be reset at the oil change. Just reset when it shows up.
#279 of 488 Re: On/Off Road Tire for Adven. Pkg. [joeb24]
Apr 10, 2011 (4:54 pm)
Also, look at Nitto tires from Japan, the Dune Grappler comes in your size and they are a on/off road all terrain tire.
Best for now.
#280 of 488 Re: Tire recommendation [priggly]
Apr 10, 2011 (5:37 pm)
First and foremost, sorry about your loss with the JGC. This is truly a wonderful vehicle.
You are right about the Michelin Latitude's, they are simply a good basic tire for the highway in clear weather conditions. As stated by many in this forum, the tread depth and tread design is an increasing issue especially in the various weather conditions. As I reported in a past post, I did find the tire in a blinding rain does not have the same stability that it should have.
I did talk to Nokian a while back, at that time they would not sure if they are coming out with the All Terrain or when for both of the JGC sizes. They did recommend the dedicated winter tire, which is not bad option. I almost pulled the trigger 4 years ago for the Nokian WR SUV, but the price then was too much. I got great deal on Goodyear triple treads. The reviews for the Nokian product line get high marks from many owners.
As for the gas mileage, I have learned over years the winter gas blend is not fuel efficient and you always burn more, like jet fuel. The last two years has been worse. It would be great if we had 8-speed tranny. In the beginning I hated the tranny with the V6, now by using the auto stick for manual shifting purpose when I need too, I have been comfortable and happy with the drive train. If Jeep does come out with a better transmission, it would be great if the old one was upgradable as well.
I hope you keep us in mind and do consider getting a JGC down the road again.
Best for now.
#281 of 488 New driver seat bottom
Apr 12, 2011 (2:07 pm)
Just got the bottom of the driver's seat replaced. I bought JGC in March and there were imperfections/stains in the leather on the seat bottom of the driver's seat. At first, I just accepted it, but then I decided to try to have the dealer do something about it (being somewhat of a perfectionist when it comes to my cars). It turns out Chrysler said it was a warrantable repair so it cost me nothing. I was worried about having it done since they would have to take apart the whole front seat to do the repair, and it is a power seat with the ventilation feature. But dealer did a great job. Everything works and new leather matches the original leather. I like my JGC even more now!
#282 of 488 Re: On/Off Road Tire for Adven. Pkg. [rrhoad]
Apr 13, 2011 (11:44 am)
I think the key is the tires are not even trail capable let alone off road capable. The sidewalls on the lattitude's are not designed for off road. The on/off road tires I have had before also performed better in snow than highway tires.