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#1220 of 1259 Re: . [fintail] by imidazol97

Mar 01, 2013 (12:33 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 01, 2013 11:58 am)
> funny things to say
 
"And the entirety of the Chevrolets, Buicks, GMCs and Cadillacs that were launched to huge acclaim in ’09, ’10, ’11 and ’12 were conceived, designed, engineered and sent on their three-to-four year journey to introduction by the “old”, pre-bankruptcy GM team. You know, the incompetent, slow, clueless, unimaginative bunch led by Rick Wagoner, Fritz Henderson and myself. WE did every one of those winning products for which some 90-day wonders would now like to be retroactively credited."
 
Sounds like Bob Lutz had some good input. I judge him as a rational fellow who understood the car business.

#1221 of 1259 Re: . [imidazol97] by fintail

Mar 01, 2013 (1:46 pm)

Replying to: imidazol97 (Mar 01, 2013 12:33 pm)
Of course, that bunch was also at the wheel for some bad times. But I digress...
 
I just liked this line: "But to suggest that he is the architect of GM’s current success is a bit like crediting the rooster with making the sun come up."
 
We need more execs with personality.

#1222 of 1259 Re: . [fintail] by michaell

Mar 01, 2013 (2:37 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 01, 2013 1:46 pm)
We need more execs with personality.
 
No, we need execs who understand the business of making automobiles for profit.
 
Do you ever hear of a personality laden BMW executive?

#1223 of 1259 Re: . [michaell] by roadburner

Mar 01, 2013 (6:52 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Mar 01, 2013 2:37 pm)
Do you ever hear of a personality laden BMW executive?
 
Back in 1998 I had a very enjoyable dinner with Vic Doolan and Karl-Heinz Kalbfell. It was anything but boring.

#1224 of 1259 Re: . [michaell] by fintail

Mar 01, 2013 (7:31 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Mar 01, 2013 2:37 pm)
Well, you know what I mean, assuming both types of execs are of relatively equal skill.
 
Comparing BMW with GM is kind of tough, completely different reasons for existing and different structures.

#1225 of 1259 Re: . [fintail] by michaell

Mar 02, 2013 (1:51 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Mar 01, 2013 7:31 pm)
Well, you know what I mean, assuming both types of execs are of relatively equal skill.
 
Comparing BMW with GM is kind of tough, completely different reasons for existing and different structures.
 
Yes and no. Both are in the business of selling vehicles for profit. Target demographic are different, but execs for both companies should know both their product and their market.
 
I agree that, all things being equal, personality trumps blandness. But i would rather have bland and competent rather than full of bluster and clueless.

#1226 of 1259 This is not bland by imidazol97

Mar 02, 2013 (6:39 pm)

First I've seen the convertible in pictures.
 

 

 

#1227 of 1259 Re: . [michaell] by fintail

Mar 02, 2013 (7:42 pm)

Replying to: michaell (Mar 02, 2013 1:51 pm)
Apples and oranges as corporations go, though. Freude am Fahren vs Jack of all trades, master of none (or few). The former will easily be able to create nice profit margins. Add in the completely different labor and national corporate environments, I can't see how they can be compared other than that they both make cars.
 
Sadly, with what must be the vast majority of execs on this continent over the past few decades being ineffective grossly overpaid cloned sheep with identical MBAs, we get neither personality nor ability.

#1228 of 1259 Re: GM 2014 SS: On the Move. Let's Go Places. [roadburner] by uplanderguy

Mar 03, 2013 (12:55 pm)

Replying to: roadburner (Feb 16, 2013 12:31 pm)
It's made in OZ, so I'd certainly consider it.
 
That's the only reason I wouldn't consider it. Not a fan of front-fender vents either, but I do like the proportions of the car.

#1229 of 1259 Re: GM 2014 SS: On the Move. Let's Go Places. [uplanderguy] by roadburner

Mar 03, 2013 (2:32 pm)

Replying to: uplanderguy (Mar 03, 2013 12:55 pm)
I've since read that the SS won't be available with a manual, so no sale...

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