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#6 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [dpj2]
Jan 14, 2010 (1:06 pm)
dpj2, I'm just trying to understand. You're saying that your mechanic did a visual check on the sending unit and it appeared to be in good working order? Or did you actually have it removed and bench tested? I traded in my '97 Toyota 4Runner with 140k+ miles on and parts weren't this hard to find. I am just BLOWN AWAY at the fact that we have american made cars and cannot get a simple part! What frustrates me is...on top of this expensive repair bill, I am going to have an expensive rental car bill because FORD CANNOT product a simple part that SHOULD be EASILY found. This is my wife and I's 5th Ford and we've never had this much difficulty before. I hate say it but this one incident is enough for me to jump ship. Maybe it is true what Ford stands for (Found On Road Dead). I'll forward my findings and or progress to you as I get them. Thanks for your input.
#7 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [edub152]
Jan 15, 2010 (6:46 am)
As far as I understand, it was just a visual inspection of the control. I don't think a bench test was performed on the control unit. A bench test may be worth a shot, but the labor on that would be expensive since the control unit is so well hidden. Reluctant to pay all that money for something that doesn't yet appear to be an issue.
As of 1/6/10, this in-tank pump was No. 16 of the Top 500 most back-ordered parts in the Ford catalog. It may be higher than that by now.
#8 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [dpj2]
Jan 15, 2010 (8:46 am)
That's rediculous! You know it's a shame when you go to the dealership to get things out of your car because you have no idea when you'll get it back. Is your Expedition still down?
#9 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [edub152]
Jan 15, 2010 (10:01 pm)
Effectively, yes. Couldn't take it on a ski trip this weekend because the used pump we installed is still not reliable. Sometimes it starts, sometimes it doesn't. Didn't want to drive it 300 miles to the mountains on the chance that we would be stranded. Had to borrow a relative's (Japanese) SUV.
#10 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [dpj2]
Jan 16, 2010 (4:54 am)
you know based on your diagnosis the relay is a lot more suspect to me than the fuel pump. What are the odds you would encounter two bad pumps? You changed pumps, problem is still there.
#11 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [alwaysfords2]
Jan 16, 2010 (7:22 pm)
The control module was not that hard to take off about 20 mins worth of work.I also dropped the gas tank when i thought the fuel pump was the problem.The gas tank has quick disconnects on the fuel lines a hose clamp on the filler neck and 2 straps holding the tank with 15mm bolts.I siffened the gas out of one of the vent lines.Not much to any of it after you realize what you have.It could be blown fuse,plugged fuel filter,bad control module,or fuel pump.
#12 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [bw17]
Jan 16, 2010 (7:25 pm)
Control module----sender unit
#13 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [alwaysfords2]
Jan 17, 2010 (9:27 pm)
You would have a good point, except that I am informed (through my mechanic) that the original equipment included a faulty design which caused this part to malfunction so frequently, not just in my car but in lots of other '05 Expeditions. My understanding is that the replacement part I am waiting for has corrected the design defect, or so I am told. Finding and installing a used OE pump with a defective design may well result in a similar malfunction.
#14 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [bw17]
Jan 17, 2010 (9:31 pm)
Any ideas on the cost of a replacement control module/sender unit (meaning, the part itself)?
#15 of 101 Re: 2005 Expedition (EB) fuel pump issues [dpj2]
Jan 22, 2010 (8:03 am)
I, too, had a 2005 Expedition I bought brand new. On 12/23/09, I backed out of the garage and it quit running. Would not start - have never had an issue with this one or any other Expedition. Had it towed to dealer - said needs fuel pump for the tune of 960.00. Okay fix it! Dealer called and said it will be end of Feb or March before one can be found. I went through the roof and called Ford. Ford confirmed it is true - production cannot keep up w/demand on this part. So I have a useless truck with 65000. miles on it sitting in the dealership parking lot. I loved that truck and could not find another new one without it being a hybrid or EL so I traded it for a 2010 Limited Ford Explorer - I want my Expedition back - this whole deal is bad!
The Explorer is nice but doesn't compare to my Expedition. Good Luck!