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#38 of 75 Re: Randomly dies [fnoel]
by trouper
Nov 23, 2010 (4:54 am)
Your problem sounds EXACTLY like mine. i Have a 2003 Expedition (EB). Over the last 6-8 months it would just die on me going down the road but it would always recrank and run until 2 says ago. It died (out of town!!!) would intermittently recrank but would not run longer than a minute or two.
Took to Ford dealership in Guntersville, AL. They told me I needed to replace fuel pump & filter for a total of $985 ($499.99 was the cost of the fuel pump part alone, seems high to me). A $1,000 later and it still won't crank. Then they tell me there is moisture in the fuse panel. That was yesterday at 5:00. Please pray for me this repair will not be another $1,000!!! Will keep you posted. Is there any help from FORD on this issue?
Trouper
#39 of 75 Hard to Start...Fuel Issue
by mimbesi
Nov 26, 2010 (2:12 am)
I guess its my turn? I've had my 05 Expedition since July, problem free. Coldest morning of year and went to start and it tool a while to turn over. Drove to store. Gone 20mins. Took 5mins to start. After several short trips throughout the day, and all experiencing the starting problem, I noticed that fuel pump was not engaging after turning key. Meaning, by turning key to the almost start position, all my lights and gauges would turn on, but the gas gauge read empty for about 10-15secs. When it finally read full, I would start her up, first turn, just fine.
Is this the sending unit causing the problem?
Thank you all for posting this thread and for your future communication.
#40 of 75 Same problem with 05 Expedition
by justinba
Jan 05, 2011 (1:31 pm)
I live in Minnesota and the mechanic told me the fuel pump was out and then the module was out. He said the module was controlling the fuel pressure from the negative side of the module, very hard to detect. So now two new parts installed and the truck shuts off after 5 min. There are few new codes to check but just curious if anyone else got the problem fixed. Did your trucks run after the fuse box was replaced?
In addition I have had an intermittent no start issues which shows up when no one is around to check it. The mechanic seems to think that the module was causing the fuel pump to not put pressure at the head and therefore not start. I back off the key and try it again and it always started and ran just fine. Just looking to get back on the road as fast a possible. I appreciate any help. Thanks
#41 of 75 Re: Same problem with 05 Expedition [justinba]
by mimbesi
Jan 05, 2011 (1:46 pm)
My '05 was taken to shop (Ford Dealer) shortly after my post. Found problem with fuel pump and would have back next day. After installed the new fuel pump cause the control panel to go bad and that meant waiting a few more days for it to be FedExed from Detroit. $1300 later, been running fine. Good Luck!
#42 of 75 Re: Same problem with 05 Expedition [mimbesi]
by justinba
Jan 05, 2011 (9:57 pm)
Stopped at the shop today and even called the dealer. Still 5 min run then stalls out as thought there is no fuel pressure the the rail. There are 3 new codes 1. P1237 secondary circuit, 2 Open electrical and no. 3 was for a pressure sensor. Anyhow I called the dealer and his suggestion was to reset the computer. Sounds like you were able to get moving with just a two stepper solution. I saw the module that was replaced and there was a hole through the aluminium mount right to the circuit board and it smelled like chlorine, presumably from the ice melt solutions. I'll keep this site posted.
#43 of 75 01 expedition not starting
by 95sportster
Jan 16, 2011 (9:30 am)
01 expedition with 105K miles (gets driven around 5K miles/year) has started becoming unreliable. Starts, runs fine, then will not start again for hours. Mechanic ran diagnostics and found nothing wrong, then changed the fuel filter and charged me $120. It ran fine with no problems for about a tank of gas, and now has died again and will not start...even 2 days later. It will turn over all day long, but will not start. Mechanic said if it was fuel pump it should show a code...any one else have these issues? Thanks, Ronny
#44 of 75 Re: 01 expedition not starting [95sportster]
by mimbesi
Jan 16, 2011 (10:04 am)
Ronny, I never got a "check engine" light during my dilemma, therefore no code. They started with the pump and then that turned into the control panel. Don't know if the control panel would be effected with an 01. Good luck!
#45 of 75 Re: 01 expedition not starting [95sportster]
by dpj2
Jan 16, 2011 (10:33 am)
Ronny: When you say it 'died again,' do you mean it won't start, or or actually died while running or after starting? My '05 had a similar problem a year ago which turned out to be electrical rather than the fuel pump originally doiagnosed. My truck's problem turned out to be something called the Central Junction Box. Mine truck never died once it started, but intermittently it refused to start at all.
#46 of 75 Re: 01 expedition not starting [dpj2]
by 95sportster
Jan 16, 2011 (1:46 pm)
Sorry, I meant that it just won't start again. It runs great WHEN it starts. I went back over the sister-in-laws house today and tried it and it started the first try. It's been sitting in the driveway for about 2.5 hours now and I just tried it again. Started 4 out of 5 tries. Only time it didn't start was when I just turned the key on and immediately tried starting it. If I turn key to on, let the warning bells finish dinging, then hit the ignition, starts right up. Maybe mine is the control junction box too?? What was the fix for that?
#47 of 75 Re: Same problem with 05 Expedition [justinba]
by justinba
Jan 19, 2011 (7:47 am)
05 Expedition. Got it back last week after 3 weeks, a new fuel pump, a new fuel pump control module, a new fuse box and a new pressure sensor, Strike four. Mechanic used to work at a Ford shop started going back through the wiring and found a cracked wire on the line going to the fuel pump. He replaced the pig tail and all works pretty good. Still does not start every try but it always starts on the second try. Cracked wires an corrosion, gotta love Minnesota!