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General Toyota Recall Questions/Comments: Accelerator Stuck Problem Recall
#204 of 447 Re: Making the gas pedal shorter [kdhspyder]
Jan 26, 2010 (4:52 pm)
This is false. You continue to repeat the same false statements from the LAT as you did in Post #1. Get over it. Toyota showed where the LAT made up much of that article. The proof was printed here at Edmunds as well as many other places.
This AutoBlog column is simply another restatement of the false article that the LAT printed.
Oh really? Cannot wait to see how you try to spin Toyota's latest action.
"Toyota Motor Co. said Tuesday it was suspending U.S. sales of eight recalled vehicle models to fix accelerator pedals that stick, the latest quality problem to confront the world's No. 1 automaker.
As part of the plan, Toyota said it was halting production at five manufacturing facilities for the week of Feb. 1 "to assess and coordinate activities." There are 2.3 million vehicles involved in the recall, which was announced last week.
"This action is necessary until a remedy is finalized," said Bob Carter, Toyota's group vice president and general manager.
The Japanese automaker says the sales suspension includes the 2009-2010 RAV4, the 2009-2010 Corolla, the 2009-2010 Matrix, the 2005-2010 Avalon, the 2007-2010 Camry, the 2010 Highlander, the 2007-2010 Tundra and the 2008-2010 Sequoia.
It was unclear how long Toyota would suspend production of the vehicles. In an e-mail to employees, company officials said, "we don't know yet how long this pause will last but we will make every effort to resume production soon." Toyota officials did not immediately return phone messages.
Toyota said the company would stop producing vehicles at plants in Indiana, Kentucky, Texas and Canada. They said no other North American Toyota facility would be affected by the decision.
The auto company said the sales suspension would not affect Lexus or Scion vehicles. Toyota said the Prius, Tacoma, Sienna, Venza, Solara, Yaris, 4Runner, FJ Cruiser, Land Cruiser and select Camry models, including all Camry hybrids, would remain for sale.
Toyota said last week it was recalling 2.3 million vehicles in the U.S. to fix accelerator pedals with mechanical problems that could cause them to become stuck.
That announcement followed a larger recall months earlier of 4.2 million vehicles because of problems with gas pedals becoming trapped under floor mats, causing sudden acceleration. That problem was the cause of several crashes, including some fatalities."
#205 of 447 Re: Making the gas pedal shorter [revit]
Jan 26, 2010 (5:14 pm)
I don't wish bad things like this happening to any auto maker, but sheesh, when it's Toyota, people start talking like 'Baghdad Bob' or The Wizard of Oz--
'there's no problems here; pay no attention to that man behind the curtain'!
This is serious stuff, and one can only imagine if this was happening to a Big Three maker right this very day.
#206 of 447 Re: Making the gas pedal shorter [uplanderguy]
Jan 26, 2010 (5:49 pm)
Good point! But to me, the difference here is Toyota has always prided itself to be above the other automakers; granted stuff like this happens to Ford, GM, etc., but some, including Consumer Reports, have always handled Toyota as the "gold child" that could do no wrong. Seems like someone grew too much, too fast and put aside what they became known for in the industry ~ quality.
I honestly think their quality has been impacted over the past several years, but it is kind of mindset that people have become accustomed to of "you want the best quality, then buy a Toyota". Unfortunately, people have just continued to buy into that mentality without really seeing what they have been getting in recent years.
Take a look at Hyundai. Many laugh at the name when the hear it, but Hyundai is no laughing matter these days and it what Toyota needs to REALLY be worried about. Change isn't easy and many people are steadfast in their ways and how they look at things. The same is true with the auto industry.
It appears a new day has dawn...
#207 of 447 Happy to see some morals ...
Jan 26, 2010 (5:59 pm)
being exhibited finally at Toyota and within the business world in general.
The sleazebag PR-types at Toyota who have been trying to downplay this issue, seem to have gotten told to stop running their mouths, from someone at the top (the board) of Toyota. It'll be interesting to see who's demoted or let go within the executive ranks of Toyota.
#208 of 447 Wasn't It a Lexus??
Jan 26, 2010 (6:04 pm)
The suspension in sales does NOT have any Lexus products involved... Wasn't the cop in SAN in a Lexus?
This whole topic just gets weirder and more bizarre.
The actions taken by Toyota pretty much cancel out any further speculation on my part. This his historic and unprecedented and they have either admitted to serious defects or, given in to a faction of people that in reality..... need driving lessons and shouldn't be anywhere near a motor vehicle.
Pick your poison.....
#209 of 447 Re: Making the gas pedal shorter [revit]
Jan 26, 2010 (6:26 pm)
Please be serious. The statement today speaks for itself.
The subject of your OP was the LAT article which is largely fabricated in it's statements. My comments remain unchanged and accurate.
The voluntary recall last week and the suspension of sales today are actually exactly the opposite of your original contention.
#210 of 447 Re: CBS news [imidazol97]
Jan 26, 2010 (6:40 pm)
They've had long enough since the earlier crashes if they hadn't been so busy trying to pass it off as consumer misuse of mats in _all_ of the cases and if they had started investigating earlier.
Speculation again -- I hope you're happy with the latest turn of events. But you realize the engineers were probably hard at work behind the scenes while the PR department said something else. In any case, it's commendable Toyota is stopping production of the cars with the gas pedal "stiction" problem (as opposed to the floor mat issue) until a definitive fix can be found.
As for me, I'm keeping my older Camrys. They're not affected by either recall and have done fine by me. It will be a long time before I buy another car again, unless the unexpected happens. At that time, I'll survey the automotive landscape and make a decision.
#211 of 447 Re: CBS news [210delray]
Jan 26, 2010 (7:27 pm)
>Speculation again -- I hope you're happy with the latest turn of events.
That implies that you know that it is NOT true, otherwise it's only another opinion on your part just as mine is presented as my opinion, which I'm allowed to do.
>I hope you're happy
Of course I'm not happy. People have been injured and died. I'm said all along there was more to the many complaints than just floor mats.
>But you realize the engineers were probably hard at work behind the scenes
I won't point out that could be speculation or an opinion.
I think it's reprehensible that there have been known problems since 2008 with this at least this one factor being admitted only now.
During this time how many injuries and deaths occurred possibly due to a sticking throttle potentiometer?
I hope they can find that there's more to it than just the inside potentiometer device problem. I really feel there is something more involved with control computers.
One source on the production stop said that stores would continue to sell cars. Is that correct or did they mean they would sell cars not directed involved in this particular recall with the potentiometer problem.
#212 of 447 Toyota suspension.
Jan 26, 2010 (7:34 pm)
I hope this action by toyota to suspend the affected models (pedal defects) put a slap on the face of the arrogant service advisors who denied claims that some of the vehicles are malfunctioning. Instead... they say that they 'can't duplicate the problem' so they send the same car back to their owners. Shame on the service advisers who did this!
#213 of 447 Re: Toyota - Japan vs. MIA [jspagna1]
Jan 26, 2010 (7:37 pm)
I think that we all need to keep something in mind here . Toyota has been such a leader and perfectionist in quality, dependability and reliability for so long, that when any desrepancy arises in any of those categories, everyone likes to shoot rubber bands at them. What about when the Dodge Durango's steering wheel had to fall off the column and roll down the highway before they would recall it ? This is a PRECAUTIONARY method set in good faith, by Toyota. They want to stand behind what they ALWAYS Have ! If they truly thought it was more than an accelarator pedal edge becoming lodged in a floormat, it would have been made public LONG AGO!!!! Have some faith.people.