2010 Ford Fusion vs. Honda Accord and Toyota Camry

82 messages,  Last post on Aug 05, 2011 at 7:17 AM

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What is this discussion about? Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan

#73 of 82 Re: Looks like Ford is doing something right [dissmember] by hackattack5

Nov 11, 2010 (7:56 pm)

Replying to: dissmember (Oct 21, 2010 11:41 pm)
dissmember: Here are the real facts:
So US manufacturers assemble some cars in Mexico. Well so do Toyota, VW, Nissan, Honda, BMW, and Mercedes Benz. And even with some US-based manufacturers assembling cars in Mexico, the vast majority are still built in the USA. By the the domestic content of a Mexican-built Ford Fusion is still 30% versus the Japanese built Toyota Prius at 0%.
 
And GM alone employs more Americans than all foreign automakers combined; 40 percent of GM’s worldwide workforce is in the United States, compared to only 11 percent of Toyota’s.
 
Chrysler employs about 83 workers for every 2,500 vehicles sold, Ford employs 80 and General Motors 71, according to the Washington-based Level Field Institute. By comparison, Toyota employs 33 American workers for every 2,500 cars sold.

#74 of 82 Time to archive this thread by hackattack5

Jan 18, 2011 (5:23 pm)

Everyone: I started this thread in 2009 before the Fusion made car of the year. I did trade in my 2008 Accord and purchased the Fusion SEL 2.5L We have had the car 1 year 18,000 miles and it has been a wonderful car. No rattles,noises or shakes. we average 28 MPG which is 4 MPG better than the 4cly Accord that we owned. I took a lot of heat from the die hard Accord fans but it has been worth it.
Cya

#75 of 82 Re: Time to archive this thread [hackattack5] by mtnman1

Jan 19, 2011 (5:40 pm)

Replying to: hackattack5 (Jan 18, 2011 5:23 pm)
I have to second your opinion about the Fusion. I purchased a 2009 Fusion SEL V6 in late October 2008. I have about 27,000 miles on it. It has been the best vehicle I have ever owned in my 54 years on this planet. I have commented to my wife frequently that this car has no rattles or squeeks and rides so smoothly. Everything from the seat comfort, Audiophile stereo system, auto climate control, to the great engine has been flawless. The car is as good as the first day I drove it off the lot. I have been running about 19 Mpg City and 26 to 27 Highway.

#76 of 82 fusion against accord by tgozdalski1

Jan 20, 2011 (11:39 am)

Last summer I rented Fusion for a week while vacationing in virginia. Overall I liked the car; it was I believe se 4 cyl automatic. It felt solid, handled well. For a week I averaged 26 MPG with about 70% hwy trying to maximize fuel economy. The MPG based on car display info. I expected a little better. The one think I did not care about was plastic aluminium like trim around edges of controls. Small think but looked quite cheap in the car. I looked into few options but in the end I bought certified 2007 accord lx sedan 5 speed manual with 34,500 on odometer for 14,100 PTD in Dallas area. I've been averaging about 32.7 MPG with about 85% hwy. My old 2000 accord lx manual as well is driven daily by my son. This one has close to 250,000 miles and gets about 28 MPG. Comparing 2010 Fusion to 2007 accord I would give a slight edge to accord but this is just my perception. Ford came a long way since ford tempo

#77 of 82 Re: fusion against accord [tgozdalski1] by acdii

Jan 20, 2011 (1:41 pm)

Replying to: tgozdalski1 (Jan 20, 2011 11:39 am)
If you go according to the display for fuel MPG, you can get widely different readings. The only true method is hand calculating per tank, and average out over several tanks to get the correct FE. I have an 1999 F350 that according to the display gets 32 MPG. It really only gets half that. When I had Hybrids, I kept a little black book, marked down every tank, how many miles, and how many gallons, and after a year averaged it out, and it was not even close to the displays. My Fusion Sport reads 23 it gets 26, so I stopped using it.

#78 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [hackattack5] by yepmaybe

Apr 14, 2011 (11:34 am)

Replying to: hackattack5 (Jan 08, 2010 7:40 pm)
your back brake pads are probably worn because of the new accord braking system, "EBD" electronic brake distribution, so while your nose diving each time you hit the brakes in your fusion, the accord comes to alot more comfortable of a stop..... just sayin

#79 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [yepmaybe] by hackattack5

Aug 04, 2011 (7:03 pm)

Replying to: yepmaybe (Apr 14, 2011 11:34 am)
Say what you what you want but when the back brakes on my 08 Accord were wore out at 19,000 miles and my front brakes still had 80% left on them I would say that it was poor design and for Honda to say it was "normal wear" well they lost 1 customer for life. Oh by the way my Fusion does not nose dive "just saying"

#80 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [hackattack5] by acdii

Aug 04, 2011 (7:50 pm)

Replying to: hackattack5 (Aug 04, 2011 7:03 pm)
This is normal for the rears to wear out faster, first, they are smaller pads and second they do most of the stopping. Just about all cars with rear disks will apply more braking pressure to the rear of the car, especially in a FWD car, than to the front. The harder you brake the more the fronts will brake until they are doing the most work. It isnt just the Honda's that do that. My Fusions rear pads were worn long before the fronts were.

#81 of 82 I can vouch by cannon3

Aug 04, 2011 (8:37 pm)

For the Fusion out of these 3. I have a 2006 Fusion SEL V6, very first year. I now have over 72,000 trouble free, squeak free, rattle free miles. As far as improvements to the Fusion, Yes, Ford listened to consumers and made improvements. I test drove a 2010 Fusion SEL 2.5 and the improvements are noticible. Interior is improved, ergonomics improved, the newer car seemed a bit more quiet, handling also more confident with good feel. Break light moved to trunk area for better visibility. Head rests for back seat passengers, just to name a few more.

#82 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [acdii] by akirby

Aug 05, 2011 (7:17 am)

Replying to: acdii (Aug 04, 2011 7:50 pm)
Have to disagree on that my friend. The front brakes do most of the work in regular stopping - that's why so many vehicles came with disc fronts but drum rears or smaller rear discs. When you brake it shifts the weight to the front.
 
This seems to be a recent development (rear brake wear) that has something to do with new parking brake designs and/or stability control.
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