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Ford Fusion, Honda Accord, Toyota Camry, Sedan
#33 of 82 Re: clearly not the Camry - Part 2 [acdii]
Jan 29, 2010 (9:49 am)
You misunderstood what I said. The throttle had already been released without sticking and while the brakes were being applied, the car began to accelerate again without any accelerator pedal input. This scenario has been reported several times and cannot be blamed on a sticky gas pedal. A faulty sensor - yes, but that's not what Toyota is claiming is the problem with the gas pedal assemblys AFAIK.
#34 of 82 Re: clearly not the Camry - Part 2 [akirby]
Jan 29, 2010 (10:47 am)
If what you say is correct, and if the mat was on top of the pedal, then what could possibly have happened is the force applied to the gas pedal is causing it to stick. when you press on with your foot, it is pretty much straight on, but the mat would press it down, and sideways at the same time. If the mat is not on the pedal, then who the hell knows.
#35 of 82 Re: clearly not the Camry - Part 2 [acdii]
Jan 29, 2010 (11:01 am)
No mats - they had already been removed. So again - the floor mats and pedal assembly explain 2 of the 3 reported problems, but not the 3rd one. Consensus is there is an electronic problem, either with a sensor, controller or software and that is the one that Toyota (so far) has not acknowledged.
#36 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [hackattack5]
Feb 02, 2010 (9:31 pm)
Hackattack- Since you started this thread a while ago, I bet you are relieved that you did not buy the Camry.
My father-in-law bought an 2010 Camry LE 3 weeks ago, after also test driving the Accord and Fusion.....In light of the recent gas pedal issues, he's now upset he didn't go with Ford ( his 2nd choice).
Appears the world of Toyota is crumbling further..more bad news for Toyota this evening:
I'm usually partial to Japanese brands, but am very happy to see Ford doing so well lately WITHOUT the help of our tax dollars.
#37 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [spartanman2]
Feb 02, 2010 (10:48 pm)
I'm also glad to see Ford doing well. However, don't be misled on Ford not taking tax dollars. They actually took theirs firts - three years ago. They were actually worse off than GM. But I think Ford now has the opportunity to turn around with the Toyota problems creating new customers for Ford. I was actually waiting for the new sonata, but think I'm going to pass this time around as there are too many new things in this sonata that haven't yet been proven - GDI (germans had their share of problems with this and idk if hyundai will get it right the first time); new transmission (who knows how that will work out); and a new suspension system. I think I'm going to give serious consideration to a 6 cyl mustang as it is going to be about the same price as the sonata SE with the tradeoff being that you get 3/5 mpg less on the mustang, but 100 hp and 100 ft lb torque more than the sonata 4 cylinder.
#38 of 82 Re: clearly not the Camry [hoyafan]
Feb 03, 2010 (4:40 am)
Seriously...first floor mat issues, then pedals, now electronics...gosh, what's next!
#39 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [spartanman2]
Feb 03, 2010 (5:37 am)
"Hackattack- Since you started this thread a while ago, I bet you are relieved that you did not buy the Camry"
Yes I am really happy with the Fusion. The Accord because of problems that Honda would not address was never an option.(I was trading in an 08 Accord) I have been purchasing Japanese for the 16 years and I do have a 08 Tacoma that has been great but this Fusion is really nice and quiet and tight. The only reason I even looked at the Fusion over the Camry was because of this website. It was all over after the test drive. I think Ford has a long way to go on the models that they are not focusing on but I am really impressed with the Fusion, Taraus and F150. The resale price is still a concern for me and I don't think Ford has learned the rental car sale problem yet so I will just let my wife drive it till the resale doesn't matter so much. With Toyota's issue's who know what the resale value of Camry's will be?
#40 of 82 Re: clearly not the Camry - Part 2 [akirby]
Feb 03, 2010 (6:45 am)
Well now Steve Wozniak of Apple fame is claiming his Prius runs away sometimes when he uses the cruise control. The NTSB and Japan are now questioning Toyota over the brakes on the Prius disengaging on rough roads. The TCH I had did the same thing, though it sounds like the Prius has it more severe, enough to have caused crashes.
I am so glad I got rid of the Toyotas when I did.
#41 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [wayne21]
Feb 03, 2010 (6:57 am)
However, don't be misled on Ford not taking tax dollars. They actually took theirs firts - three years ago.
Care to explain this? Ford secured private loans, not Government loans.
#42 of 82 Re: 4 cyl test drive -- and my decision [akirby]
Feb 03, 2010 (7:38 am)
The $5.9 billion going to Ford will help the company shift truck plants to production of cars, affecting about two million units of production and a dozen or more different models, including the Focus, Escape, Mustang, Taurus and F-150 pickup. Ford will also use the money to support development of a range of technologies such as improved internal combustion engines—which the company markets as “EcoBoost”—and hybrid technology
You're right. These government loans were for hybrid development and more fuel efficient cars, not a bailout. They did private loans to avoid bankrupcy.