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#384 of 1686 2012 Rear Wheel drive?
Aug 02, 2010 (7:12 pm)
Yea, I guess those people who know about gears/ratio to gears and this stuff can tell me why my Mazda Protege (automatic with 4 cly.) only gets 30 MPG. I know, my Mazda is quick, zoom, zoom, zoom, but I AM REALLY IMPRESSED by my new '11 Avalon. Tomorrow is our first trip in it. Hard to believe I've had it a week and have not drove it, I can't wait. :o), I will give MPG when I get back. Toyota really out done themselves on this car. Of course we all paid for it. Right? I hear they MIGHT discontinue the Avalon or better yet make it a rear wheel drive. Any word for anyone on this?
#385 of 1686 Records of MPG
Aug 02, 2010 (7:15 pm)
First thing we do when we buy a new car/truck is buy a small book. We keep EVERY receipt, from the original sticker on out to when we sell it. People are always impressed by the records we keep. EVEN every fill up we figure out the MPG and write it down. Yes, this takes a little extra time but in the long run it will pay for itself. I assure you of that.
#386 of 1686 Re: 2012 Rear Wheel drive? [nan48]
Aug 02, 2010 (8:59 pm)
Discontinue their 2nd best selling car, their flagship? Whoever told you that must have been drunk or nuts.
#387 of 1686 Re: 2012 Rear Wheel drive? [twinb]
Aug 03, 2010 (4:46 am)
Not the 2nd best selling car. I bet you forgot about the Corolla.
#388 of 1686 Re: 2012 Rear Wheel drive? [bdyment]
Aug 03, 2010 (5:06 am)
I'm not sure what car outsells the other but I do know that I read this on the internet. I can't say for certain that it's true. The same article said they was going to discontinue the Solar, this was a certainty. I would think Corolla would be number two, Camery number one. The article DID NOT say for sure they would discontinue the Avalon. They said Toyota had thought about it. They also thought about making the Avalon rear wheel drive in 2012 if not discontinue. NOW that I can see. Hard to do without sacrificing MPG though. Even if it's discontinued that does not necessarily drive the price down on all Avalon's. In fact it could have an opposite effect on older Avalons.
#389 of 1686 Re: 2012 Rear Wheel drive? [nan48]
Aug 03, 2010 (6:09 am)
They also thought about making the Avalon rear wheel drive in 2012 if not discontinue. NOW that I can see.
They just redid the Avalon for 2011. The last redo was in 05 which lasted five years. Basing it on history this "generation" will be around for a few more years before another redesign.
As for the Avalon going RWD, IMO not gonna happen. The Avalon is a fairly low volume car compared to the Corolla, Camry and Prius. The reason it survives is because it shares many (many!) parts with the V6 Camry. If they take to RWD it will certainly raise the price closer to Lexus territory and will make it difficult to sell over a GS350.
Now... if the Avalon some how, some way ever goes RWD I will stand in line to buy one. I loved my 06 (my second favorite car ever) and wish I replaced it with another one.
#390 of 1686 Low Sell Car!
Aug 03, 2010 (6:29 am)
So far I really like my 2011. I bought a used 2000 and had electrical problems but LOVED the ride so much I had to have one. I could have sold it to some unsuspecting buyer but I simply didn't have the heart to do that. I traded it in. So far I am impressed by this 2011 but honestly I have not driven this car much at all. Good Lord Willing this will be our first long trip today. IF THE WIFE can EVER get ready. I did notice that the trunk does not close first thing. It will close but takes a few tries. Plus the line up in MY trunk is a little off. Americans better take better pride in building such cars or people like me will look for the J in the first of the Vin number. J stands for Japan.
I do believe you are right. Avalon is a low sell car. When we purchase a new Diesel in 2001, I was told then that the Diesel's are low sells but they are also the truck they make the most money on. I bought a Dodge. What a mistake! Engine solid, body not so solid. But I still have it and I get great MPG out of this large truck. I only have 51 thousand miles on it. :o)
#391 of 1686 Re: MPG [nan48]
Aug 03, 2010 (8:07 am)
I've put on new tires on my '08 Ltd. Nothing had to be reprogramed. This is with regards to the tire pressure sensing which are in the valve stems.
#392 of 1686 Re: 2012 Rear Wheel drive? [tjc78]
Aug 03, 2010 (8:54 am)
If Lexus can sell the Camry as an ES350....
Then why not.....
A GS350 sold as an Avalon, or market replacement for, wouldn't be a bad idea.
RWD, optional R/awd, and......DFI....!
Camry top end, ~$26,000, ES350 base, ~$35,000.
Avalon, top end ~35,000, GS350 base, ~$45,000.
Note the same ~$10,000 "spread".
#393 of 1686 Re: 2012 Rear Wheel drive? [wwest]
Aug 03, 2010 (9:14 am)
The GS would need to be stretched about a foot to be an Avalon replacement. There is no way Toyota could do that and keep the price in line with what it is now. The Avalon's pricing works because it shares a lot of parts and is built here in the US alongside more popular models.
I think your "spread #s" above are actually closer to 5K. A loaded up Camry will go over 30K and the Avalon gets awfully close to 40K.