Last post on Nov 15, 2013 at 6:09 AM
You are in the Toyota Avalon
What is this discussion about?
#1558 of 1735 Re: Speaking of Unsightly Front Ends [neil1]
Dec 13, 2012 (2:38 pm)
My first impression on the 2013' front end was , "What in the world was Toyota engineers thinking"? My biggest complaint probably would be less room on the inside. (keep in mind I have not driven a 2013 model) EVERYONE who sits in the back seat of 2011 LOVES it. I have sat back there one time and I have to say, it's very roomy. For now, I'll stick to my 2011 Avalon. I have only 22 thousand on my car, and it mostly just sits in the garage. I bought the extended 8 year warranty (for peace of mind) so I should be ok for many years to come. If anyone buys a hybrid, I'll be curious to what they have to say.
I can understand changing the style (to appeal to younger buyers or different buyers) but to me it's like changing the coke formula. Remember years ago, coke had an excellent formula and then changed it for no reason. WHY change something if it's working?
#1559 of 1735 Re: Speaking of Unsightly Front Ends [nan48]
Dec 14, 2012 (5:30 am)
Why change something that's working?
Reminds me of what Facebook just did. The had 668,872 people voting, and of those, 589,141 said they were opposed to the new documents. Guess what, they went ahead and ignored the voters.
I think it just like the Coke fiasco also. In the end Coke went back to their original product. Hope Toyota does.
The only reason I bought the Avy was the room in back as we travel with another couple. I tried a number of different cars and climbed in the back see of all of them. Some of them I eliminated without trying the front seat so the room is very important for me.
#1560 of 1735 Re: (Hybrid list) Speaking of Unsightly Front Ends [gramz]
Dec 14, 2012 (5:39 am)
I say stick with your 2011, in hindsight I should have.
YES I love my 2013, but the 2011 was just different, and a little bit bigger)
Oh, for those interested in some folks thoughts on the Hybrid and why they did or would buy it, go here: (Nice active Avalon site)
#1561 of 1735 Re: Speaking of Unsightly Front Ends [gramz]
Dec 14, 2012 (5:53 am)
I understand if you have to change a car, then by all means do it. I don't drive much and my present 2011 has plenty of life left in it. Lets hope I don't hit a deer or something along that line.
Personally I don't think Toyota will go back to having a big back seat. MPG seems more important these days. Even though gas seems to be going down (for now).
The front end might change, but that's cosmetic, nothing more.
#1562 of 1735 Re: Speaking of Unsightly Front Ends [nan48]
Dec 14, 2012 (2:48 pm)
Personally I don't think Toyota will go back to having a big back seat.
REALLY hope you're wrong! If you're not, why get the Avalon over the Camry? That will take the Avalon off my list, I drive clients almost every day in my Lexus LS, I need the back seat room.
#1563 of 1735 2011 Maintenance Required Light
Dec 18, 2012 (5:55 am)
Anybody know how the maint req'd light is programmed to come on? For example is it at 5K, 10K, 15K etc? Or is is automatically 5K after the last oil change was performed and light reset? Or something else?
#1564 of 1735 Re: 2011 Maintenance Required Light [neil1]
Dec 18, 2012 (6:10 am)
Automatic 5,000 after oil change and a reset É I believe.
#1565 of 1735 Re: 2011 Maintenance Required Light [neil1]
Dec 18, 2012 (6:16 am)
I have 45,000 miles on mine and it has come on each time somewhere short of 5,000 miles. It only stays on for a short time then it goes off. I went past the 5,000 miles once and when that happened it stayed on until service and they reset it.
#1566 of 1735 Re: 2011 Maintenance Required Light [gramz]
Dec 18, 2012 (6:26 am)
My 06 was 5K miles.
#1567 of 1735 Re: 12 [rotterdam6] Updates:
Dec 18, 2012 (6:30 am)
I only liked that color in the bright sunshine (not very much here in Maine), any other time it looked black. Hell at least half of the people I know, thought I had a Black Avalon (which I did 2 years ago).
As for the room in the back seats É that doesn't seem as small in comparison to the front. Most folks who have ridden in the back say it's just as roomy as my 2011. Now I'm not sure that could be said if 3 people were out back.
Oh let's see, it sucks in the snow, but then again, most cars do with summer tires on them:) Well it doesn't suck, but it's not great.
I think the drivers seat is more comfortable then my 2011, not much, but enough that I can tell.
The finish seems to be very nice. I've washed it a dozen times or so, and it washes real easy, and dirt and snow washes off real nice. It seems to be a much higher gloss then my 2011.
Not a single person has said anything bad about the car. I have had several people ask if they could sit in it, and walk around it, and all of said in some way, shape or form "Wow, Nice Car" "Sure wish it was mine" or "Damn I'll bet your one happy in camper with this car" É
It's at least as quiet if not just a little bit quieter.
I'm not sue I like the window buttons. My 2011, you could hit real quick, and the window would go up / down, and you could hit the switch again in mid stream, and the window would go up / down. With these, you need to hit and hold the button albeit for just a second or so, but still not as easy / quick as the 2011.
My head unit looks like it is bad:( I've tried 3 other cell phones, and they all do the same thing. I have an appointment at the dealer for them to check it out. Hopefully it's just a setting I'm over looking.
I'm still going to be interested to see what if anything they change next year. I think they need to decide if it's a Luxury Car / Sports Car (hardy) or a Sports Car/ Luxury Car.
I for one, have owned Avalon's because they were a Luxury Car. I was fine with the size (heck I would have been fine if it were a bit bigger:)
I know it's not in this market, but you don't see many luxurious;
- Buick Regals
- Infinity G35, G37
You get the picture.
Make a sports car, for the sports fan É
Make a luxury car for those who understand, the size, comfort, LUXURY, and are ok with the poor fuel economy. I understand I Bought a Luxury car and know that it's MPG's won't be as good as a ECONOMY car É I'm ok with that.
Oh, again, the front with a front plate is a NON issue:)