Last post on Nov 15, 2013 at 6:09 AM
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#1452 of 1735 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [marv15]
May 11, 2012 (1:26 pm)
Thanks marv15, good article.
The idea of a hybrid sounds good to me. I'd love (almost) double city mileage. The Highlander hybrid is rated 28/28, but it weighs 4641 with SUV aerodynamics, so the Avalon should do a lot better. Hopefully, high 30s in the city. I'd love that.
Maybe a year ago one of the car mags had a paragraph or two on the new Avalon. It said that Toyota's president set a target, that the new Avalon should be the most refined car available in its price range. (The mag wondered what that meant for the Lexus ES.)
It's interesting now to hear all the talk about sharper handling and hipper sheetmetal and younger and athletic stance, etc. It worries me. To me, that sounds like they're saying "we want to be more like everything else on the road". I LIKE the things that made Avalon unique, and I don't want to lose them.
For example, I'd love it if they brought back the bench seat. LeSabre is gone. Park Avenue is gone. Buick doesn't make Buicks anymore. Town Car/Grand Marquis/Crown Victoria are gone. Etc. OK fine, that's progress. But, people who love that kind of car haven't disappeared. I think Toyota should say "thank you" to all the car companies that left that market, and they should hold on to it, with the Avalon.
OK, if they can look hip at the same time, great. No problem. Just keep the almost-limousine room, the comfortable seating position, the compliant ride, etc. Just one (old) person's opinion.
The article talked about competitors, including the Hyundai Azera. Interesting, and true. But, for me, they should also have mentioned the Hyundai Genesis. The Genesis looks good to me and its V6 price might even be lower than the Avalon's. I think my next car will be either a Genesis or an Avalon. I read that there will be a new Genesis in mid-2013 as a 2014 model.
#1453 of 1735 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [potat0e]
May 11, 2012 (1:54 pm)
Buick doesn't make Buicks anymore.
What exactly does that mean? I have a 2012 Buick LaCrosse 3.6 and it pretty much is everything a Buick always was. Quiet, roomy, powerful, great riding, and loaded with amenities.
I hope the new Avalon is a winner, I'll have that to look forward to once my Buick lease is over. I loved my 06.
As for the Avalon having a bench seat and a column shifter that won't happen. The last model to have that was 04 and there weren't many made.
The Genesis looks good to me and its V6 price might even be lower than the Avalon's.
The Genesis doesn't ride anything like the Avalon. I had a 09 and it was very jittery and sport tuned. The opposite of the Avalon.
#1454 of 1735 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [tjc78]
May 11, 2012 (8:00 pm)
"The Genesis doesn't ride anything like the Avalon. I had a 09 and it was very jittery and sport tuned. The opposite of the Avalon. "
Good to know, especially from someone who's actually owned one. Thanks.
From the articles/reviews we've seen so far, does it seem that Toyota wants the new Avalon to be more "sport tuned" too?
#1455 of 1735 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [potat0e]
May 12, 2012 (3:17 am)
I think they want it to appeal to a younger audience, but knowing Toyota they will put a focus on comfort.
We will just have to see, I hope they just improve on a good thing. I would be driving an Avalon again but couldn't wait for the new model and the 2012 was very close to the 06 I owned.
#1456 of 1735 2013 LTD Avalon
May 19, 2012 (10:57 am)
My 2011 Ltd., just turned 29,000 miles.....car runs great, good mileage, power is awesome but I want new......The 2013 has some features that I feel all cars should have..."blind spot indicator", different tires sizes, switchable driving mode".....plus redesigned interior, with more 12 volt outlets.....I HOPE there are some new colors.....not much change since my 2004....some other car manufactures seem to "have more interesting, creative colors".
Toyato Avalon is a nice car, for the money........I like being able to use regular gas.......I have looked at Lexus and Infiniti, just tough to justify $4000 - $10,000 more for about the same quality of car.
How about you??????
#1457 of 1735 Re: 2013 LTD Avalon [_bill_wa]
May 19, 2012 (1:59 pm)
What I learned from wholesaleing cars is this. The MORE expensive the car is, the faster in value they drop.
For this reason I almost didn't buy an Avalon. However, we could afford it and I wanted to treat my wife. I knew we would lose on the money end of the deal if we chose to sell.
As a driver/owner of almost all kinds of nice cars out there at one time or other. I think Avalon deliverers a lot of bang for the buck as any other car. I'm not just saying that because I bought one. I choice the Toyota because of quality, and resell value.
I don't think I could buy a car were I had to put high test gas in one. I mean, I wouldn't. Other people might but not me.
If I drove more than I probably would look at a prius C. I got 17 thousand on my 2011 Avy and love it. I forgot when we bought it but when they first came out. I don't know the value of it today but I'm sure I would lose plenty if I sold it. Hope this helps, But hey, it's not for sale. Well, I shouldn't say "not for sale", EVERYTHING is for sale in my house, except the wife and dog hmmmmm, maybe the dog
#1458 of 1735 Re: 2011 Avalon steering wheel noise problem
May 20, 2012 (10:50 am)
I want to also document the steering wheel clicking problem. My 2011 now has 19000 miles and what once was a brief clicking sound starting about a year ago is now very noticable turning the wheel in any direction. My wife does not notice it and it was initially so intermittant that I could not demonstrate the problem at the dealership. I believe it is now noticeable enough to be able to demonstrate the problem to the service advisor. When I can spare the vehicle for the day, I will schedule a service appointment.
#1459 of 1735 Re: Steering column loose [nan48]
May 20, 2012 (2:46 pm)
Well, you could 'feel' and visibly see a slight movement in the column, no matter how you adjusted it. Not horrible; however, enough to be annoying. Then, my wife started to hear a clicking sound. I never heard the clicks, probably because I'm deaf in one ear and mildly hard of hearing in the other (no pun!). When we took the vehicle in for service, we described it as such. The service writer drove the vehicle to the service bay and said that he had driven hundreds of Avalons (mostly at slower speeds in the service area) and that "there is something not right in the steering...I hear a click, too, and that's not normal. I'm going to have a senior tech check it out." When we picked the car up later, he said the tech was going to replace the column, and that was that.....and all covered under warranty.
Haven't looked back since and, 2000 miles later, I still notice how much tighter the column is, and the wife says: "No more clicking."
#1460 of 1735 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [potat0e]
May 25, 2012 (3:28 pm)
I bought a 2008 Camry Hybrid. I ran it 70,000 miles and couldn't wait to get rid of it this spring. It was typically reliable as all Camrys are, the mileage was ok, (around 38 in town), but even that doesn't pencil. At $4 a gallon, you still have to drive it about 75,000 miles before you break even from the premium on the car when you buy it. My biggest complaint was the miserable lack of power at any speed, and the roughness of the start-stop all the time. Very annoying. I have no interest in any more hybrids. They'll have to do something better than that to attract me. Considering the Ford Ecoboost next time.
Love the Avalon - but won't get one in the Hybrid flavor if they make one.
#1461 of 1735 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [nvbanker]
May 26, 2012 (5:21 am)
Thanks for the update. I drive 35,000 miles a year, and unless you are getting some 20 - 30% more mileage and or the car is REAL comfortable, REAL quiet É REAL nice, in the end you don't save enough going with another car in a cars class just because of gas mileage, especially if you need to use premium fuel.
Recent 2300 mile trip
2011 Avalon - $259.00
2011 Camry Hybrid - $228.00
2011 Prius - $179.00
I don't see a big enough difference here, to go with anything but the Avalon.
- More Comfortable
For me, the difference needs to be $150.00 or more to even consider a different car for a trip like this.
PS I just want more info on the 2013 Avalon, the Hybrid was never a consideration for me. Now AWD, this I might consider.