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#1449 of 1686 2013 LTD Avalon
by _bill_wa
May 01, 2012 (4:37 pm)
Did a search on the net, came up with the following site:
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/327965/20120413/2013-avalon-toyota-specs-picture- s-new-york.htm
2013 looks good, like the following features......what I didn't like was going back to 210 HP vs. the 268 HP the 2011 and 2012 have.....Hope the 210 HP is a mistake, I like that "extra zip" when I need it......at a little over 27,000 miles, my gas mileage, kept in a book, is a little under 28 mpg......leave the hp alone and give me the "sports suspension", I would be happy.
"The redesigned Avalon does come with a lot of swanky trim, from touch controls for climate and audio to "special lighting, including ambient night illumination," but more interesting is the fact that it will come with three driving modes: Eco, normal and sport."
#1450 of 1686 Re: Steering column loose [nan48]
by robsis
May 11, 2012 (10:15 am)
Well, steering column now replaced, AND WHAT A DIFFERENCE! No movement in the column at all, no clicking. Steering is tight and much better than ever. It has never felt this good. I was actually just expecting the clicking to go away but the solid nature of the steering with this replacement is noticeably improved.
#1451 of 1686 Re: Steering column loose [robsis]
by nan48
May 11, 2012 (2:21 pm)
My problem is my steering only moves slightly sometimes. It's not a problem that others notice. Can you describe your problem better to me.
When I last took my car in to be checked, they check out the front end. I know there's no problem in the front end. The movement is almost something I got use to but I would like for it NOT to move any.
So can you tell me in detail more about how your column acted and what did you say to your tech to make them take notice.
Thank you for your time, 2011 Avalon 17 thousand miles
#1452 of 1686 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [marv15]
by potat0e
May 11, 2012 (2:26 pm)
Thanks marv15, good article.
The idea of a hybrid sounds good to me. I'd love (almost) double city mileage. The Highlander hybrid is rated 28/28, but it weighs 4641 with SUV aerodynamics, so the Avalon should do a lot better. Hopefully, high 30s in the city. I'd love that.
Maybe a year ago one of the car mags had a paragraph or two on the new Avalon. It said that Toyota's president set a target, that the new Avalon should be the most refined car available in its price range. (The mag wondered what that meant for the Lexus ES.)
It's interesting now to hear all the talk about sharper handling and hipper sheetmetal and younger and athletic stance, etc. It worries me. To me, that sounds like they're saying "we want to be more like everything else on the road". I LIKE the things that made Avalon unique, and I don't want to lose them.
For example, I'd love it if they brought back the bench seat. LeSabre is gone. Park Avenue is gone. Buick doesn't make Buicks anymore. Town Car/Grand Marquis/Crown Victoria are gone. Etc. OK fine, that's progress. But, people who love that kind of car haven't disappeared. I think Toyota should say "thank you" to all the car companies that left that market, and they should hold on to it, with the Avalon.
OK, if they can look hip at the same time, great. No problem. Just keep the almost-limousine room, the comfortable seating position, the compliant ride, etc. Just one (old) person's opinion.
The article talked about competitors, including the Hyundai Azera. Interesting, and true. But, for me, they should also have mentioned the Hyundai Genesis. The Genesis looks good to me and its V6 price might even be lower than the Avalon's. I think my next car will be either a Genesis or an Avalon. I read that there will be a new Genesis in mid-2013 as a 2014 model.
#1453 of 1686 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [potat0e]
by tjc78
May 11, 2012 (2:54 pm)
Buick doesn't make Buicks anymore.
What exactly does that mean? I have a 2012 Buick LaCrosse 3.6 and it pretty much is everything a Buick always was. Quiet, roomy, powerful, great riding, and loaded with amenities.
I hope the new Avalon is a winner, I'll have that to look forward to once my Buick lease is over. I loved my 06.
As for the Avalon having a bench seat and a column shifter that won't happen. The last model to have that was 04 and there weren't many made.
The Genesis looks good to me and its V6 price might even be lower than the Avalon's.
The Genesis doesn't ride anything like the Avalon. I had a 09 and it was very jittery and sport tuned. The opposite of the Avalon.
#1454 of 1686 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [tjc78]
by potat0e
May 11, 2012 (9:00 pm)
"The Genesis doesn't ride anything like the Avalon. I had a 09 and it was very jittery and sport tuned. The opposite of the Avalon. "
Good to know, especially from someone who's actually owned one. Thanks.
From the articles/reviews we've seen so far, does it seem that Toyota wants the new Avalon to be more "sport tuned" too?
#1455 of 1686 Re: Nice article on the 2013, possibly a hybrid to come [potat0e]
by tjc78
May 12, 2012 (4:17 am)
I think they want it to appeal to a younger audience, but knowing Toyota they will put a focus on comfort.
We will just have to see, I hope they just improve on a good thing. I would be driving an Avalon again but couldn't wait for the new model and the 2012 was very close to the 06 I owned.
#1456 of 1686 2013 LTD Avalon
by _bill_wa
May 19, 2012 (11:57 am)
My 2011 Ltd., just turned 29,000 miles.....car runs great, good mileage, power is awesome but I want new......The 2013 has some features that I feel all cars should have..."blind spot indicator", different tires sizes, switchable driving mode".....plus redesigned interior, with more 12 volt outlets.....I HOPE there are some new colors.....not much change since my 2004....some other car manufactures seem to "have more interesting, creative colors".
Toyato Avalon is a nice car, for the money........I like being able to use regular gas.......I have looked at Lexus and Infiniti, just tough to justify $4000 - $10,000 more for about the same quality of car.
How about you??????
#1457 of 1686 Re: 2013 LTD Avalon [_bill_wa]
by nan48
May 19, 2012 (2:59 pm)
What I learned from wholesaleing cars is this. The MORE expensive the car is, the faster in value they drop.
For this reason I almost didn't buy an Avalon. However, we could afford it and I wanted to treat my wife. I knew we would lose on the money end of the deal if we chose to sell.
As a driver/owner of almost all kinds of nice cars out there at one time or other. I think Avalon deliverers a lot of bang for the buck as any other car. I'm not just saying that because I bought one. I choice the Toyota because of quality, and resell value.
I don't think I could buy a car were I had to put high test gas in one. I mean, I wouldn't. Other people might but not me.
If I drove more than I probably would look at a prius C. I got 17 thousand on my 2011 Avy and love it. I forgot when we bought it but when they first came out. I don't know the value of it today but I'm sure I would lose plenty if I sold it. Hope this helps, But hey, it's not for sale. Well, I shouldn't say "not for sale", EVERYTHING is for sale in my house, except the wife and dog hmmmmm, maybe the dog
#1458 of 1686 Re: 2011 Avalon steering wheel noise problem
by mrbill541
May 20, 2012 (11:50 am)
I want to also document the steering wheel clicking problem. My 2011 now has 19000 miles and what once was a brief clicking sound starting about a year ago is now very noticable turning the wheel in any direction. My wife does not notice it and it was initially so intermittant that I could not demonstrate the problem at the dealership. I believe it is now noticeable enough to be able to demonstrate the problem to the service advisor. When I can spare the vehicle for the day, I will schedule a service appointment.