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#134 of 1735 Re: Auto show [iamknott]
Mar 22, 2010 (9:05 am)
I will say it one more time, I actually sat in the front and back seat of the 2011 Avalon at the Cleveland, Ohio auto show in February. Even though the 2011 brochure says the headroom is the same, I am telling you they have decreased it front and back.
Now for a person like me that is 6'3 1/2" tall and I have a brother 6'5", that is important and significant. If you are 6' or less it may mean nothing. It is my opinion that the specs are wrong. I owned a 2005 Avalon and I know what the headroom should be. Toyota decreased the headroom in the Camry when they redesigned it,
and now in the Corolla and again I believe in the 2011 Avalon. That is the reason they are getting 1 mpg better in city driving, because the engine and every thing else is the same except less headroom, which means less weight, more mpg. But people are snatching up the last 2010 Avalons and I bought the last limited on my dealers lot that was fully loaded and I pick it up Wednesday.
#135 of 1735 Re: Auto show [iamknott]
Mar 22, 2010 (9:34 am)
That's a funny post Knott. Any of the Toy staff have tight fitting outfits that kept you awake at night? Rap music at the Lexus display! Maybe they're also targeting a new demographic. The new car show is coming to Denver the first week of April, I'm thinking of going.
Manat, can I ask the MSRP and your final purchase price? On the 'net I see lots of models still in dealers' inventory, except in Colorado. Where did you buy your '10? The headroom issue is troubling to me because my grandkids are above 6' going up to 6'4"; I'm tall and don't like the idea of the roof being only an inch away.
Thanks for your updates everyone.
#136 of 1735 Re: Auto show [manatoc5]
Mar 22, 2010 (9:47 am)
You will note that I said the '11 Avalon was not at the car show. When I said that the Avalon provided more room than anything under $60,000., I meant room for all your body parts, not specifically headroom, and my comment was based on the 2007-2010 Avalons with which I am familiar.
You may be right about the '11's headroom, but we would be grateful if you would answer the question we asked you previously: When you sat in the '11 Avalon, were you able to adjust the driver's seat? If so, did you move it all the way back and down?
Thanks and I'm sure you will enjoy your new '10.
#137 of 1735 Re: Done! [bergamini]
Mar 22, 2010 (9:51 am)
Yes I did pick up the 2010 Avalon Ltd on Saturday!
Mine has the light gray interior too. You will like the light gray in your 2011, I'm sure.
So far so good.......the smart key seems pretty easy to get accustomed to.
My husband is 6'3" and thinks the headroom is quite good.
Love the upgrades since our last Avalon (1999!)...so missing out on some of the features in the 2011 is pretty easy to handle Great quiet, smooth ride. No regrets.
Didn't think I'd be too impressed with the cooled seats, but given that I live in a hot climate, I think I underestimated how nice they really are. It was near 80 degrees in So CA this weekend so we tried that feature out.
Will continue to check back to get your review of the 2011!
One more thing.....I was looking at the Toyota Canada website and saw that this month they are giving 5000.00 factory rebate incentives on the Avalon! What do you think of that!
#138 of 1735 Re: Auto show [manatoc5]
Mar 22, 2010 (10:12 am)
Note on automobile weight: To increase city mileage by 1 mpg and attribute that to reduced weight, and nothing else, would require a reduction in excess of one hundred pounds.. and in fact someone posted that the 2011 was actually heavier than the 2010.
The only way this mpg increase can occur is to adjust the electronics or the gear ratios or both, again, as someone posted before. And it cannot be aerodynamics such as a lower roofline, if one exists, as the average city cycle speeds are too slow for aero related changes to really help mileage very much. The Avalon, great car as it is, cannot repeal the laws of automotive physics.
I am on my third Avy... best cars I have ever owned..
#139 of 1735 Re: Auto show [fin]
Mar 22, 2010 (10:20 am)
I am on my third Avy... best cars I have ever owned
I miss my 06 so much. I don't know why I talked myself out of leasing an 09 last year. I thought I wanted something different.
#140 of 1735 Re: Done! [cmb08]
Mar 29, 2010 (12:30 pm)
Awesome cmb08, I'm glad you love it. I just got word from my dealer that my '11 will be here this week! I'm 6'1" and sit very vertically, so to speak, and will let you know my thoughts on headroom. My '04 has loads of it so I'm not concerned but we shall see. I think buying the '10 was the smarter choice unless you wanted the upgraded Nav which indeed I did. Gulp, I guess payments start next month. It has been 3+ years since I've had to deal with that!
#141 of 1735 Re: Auto show [manatoc5]
Mar 29, 2010 (12:45 pm)
I emailed Toyota last week on this seat issue, and they emailed back that it is unchanged - the same as 2010?
I'd say Toyota should know, but if they do, maybe they are hiding it:)
#142 of 1735 Re: Auto show [ncee]
Mar 30, 2010 (10:20 am)
I wonder if there's a political committee somewhere that can check into this for us Skip. These nagging doubts are keeping me awake at night.
#143 of 1735 Re: Auto show [twinb]
Mar 30, 2010 (10:31 am)
It's not the doubts for me, it's the mixed messages we get. But I'm starting to wonder if this is what we can expect from Toyota for now?
I'm sure you sat in the car …
I'm also sure it was shorter …
I'm not sure why, or why Toyota say's it's the same, if it's not?
It doesn't matter to me, as I'm only 5' 7" tall:)
And after Uncle Sam got done with me yesterday, I don't know if I'll be getting a new car now:(