Last post on Apr 28, 2013 at 10:49 AM
You are in the Toyota Avalon
What is this discussion about?
#1317 of 1645 Re: 2013 First look: Concept Avalon, [nan48]
Dec 28, 2011 (12:30 pm)
I'm personal friends with the local Toyota Dealer, and all I got out of him, was that the car, if it looks like what they showed the dealers a few months back, it is going to be a REAL looker, and just what the dealers need to get a new group of car buyers into the showroom. He also said he order one in Blue for me:) (Yes, he was kidding, as they can't be ordered yet).
I will say, if it's the looker he said, and what I'm hoping for, I WILL own a Blue one. If not, I'll be looking at getting my LS 460 L Executive Model for my next car (Yes used:)
#1318 of 1645 Re: 2013 First look: Concept Avalon, [ncee]
Dec 28, 2011 (3:58 pm)
I have an LS 460, and highly highly recommend it. Don't get an 07. My 09 has been perfect through 41,000 miles so far. However, if I needed to downgrade to a Toyota, the Avalon would be my choice, and I could be happy in it, even the current model. But I need red
#1319 of 1645 2011 Avalon
Dec 28, 2011 (5:26 pm)
I guess I'm tight with my money. I have 14 thousand miles on my 2011 and I can't simply can't see trading it in on a 2013. No matter how it looks there will always be something better in the future. NOW if someone wanted to buy my 2011 for decent money then that's another story. I do have an extended warranty 8 years, 100 thousand miles, toyota warranty, that should help the sell of my car. ?? Any takers?
#1320 of 1645 2011 Avalon--Wiper blades/Arms problem
Dec 28, 2011 (6:38 pm)
I stopped at my dealer to get the arm and wiper numbers.......They said someone from Georgia had called.........anyhow the numbers I got are the same as the person in comment #1302.....It did solve my problem.
#1321 of 1645 Re: 2011 Avalon [nan48]
Dec 29, 2011 (2:53 pm)
May I ask what is a "decent money" you're asking?
#1322 of 1645 Re: 2013 First look: Concept Avalon, [nvbanker]
Dec 29, 2011 (3:07 pm)
It's funny. I test drove an LS 460 and it was very nice, but not a lot smother or quieter then my Avalon. Something that was a bit disappointing. Now I will say, I only got the test drive for 15 - 20 miles, so hardly a very good test for comfort and quietness over the long haul.
I've tried to find a car rental place with LS 's in stock, but haven't had any luck yet.
I figure if I can rent one for a day or 2, but on some serious miles, I could then make a much better decision on one.
I'd REALLY like to drive an LS L, seeing that's what I'd purchase, but any LS would be nice.
The models I've looked at are 2009, and 2010's
#1323 of 1645 Re: 2011 Avalon [niele]
Dec 29, 2011 (3:25 pm)
Hello Niele, Actually I have not thought of a price. I really like this car. I think we all do. Now you do understand, I don't want to sell right now. IF I like the 2013 Avalon's, then I probably would sell my car outright. So I would want MORE than they would offer me trade in. Plus there is a tax incintive for trading one in. In other words if my car is worth 30 thousand then that's 30 thousand less in taxes I would have to pay. Does that make sense? I'm not sure if this is a Federal law but it's a good law. If you are truly interested in my 2011 Avalon Limited, I can contact you in the future. Just give me your e-mail address or phone number. We all know what a new 2011 Avalon cost new, this of course is not new. However with that said it's perfect with all records including EVERY fill up is logged into a book. Every MPG logged, both computer and by hand. Literally EVERYTHING I've had done to the car is logged into my book. Plus of course dealer records. I also have extra added things like the extended Warranty that IS transferable, this is a Toyota Warranty (8 year, 100 thousand mile). So let me know if your truly interested and I'll keep your address. We don't drive much and I'm old so I get the best parking spaces. :^), There's not a scratch anywhere on this car, NOT ONE DOOR DENT, EVERYTHING in the car, carpet is kept covered, ALWAYS garage kept. Our children are grown and I've only had people in the back seat only 3 different times. Might be hard to believe but it's true. Thanks for asking, I'm curious, what part of the country do you live?
Now buying a used car you have a lot of advantages. One is no sales tax. Plus the depreciation value is gone and you'll have a Toyota warranty. I'm almost talking myself OUT of selling it. Plus on my car you know just what you're buying. So let me know. Ok!
#1324 of 1645 Re: 2013 First look: Concept Avalon, [ncee]
Dec 30, 2011 (4:06 pm)
Lexus doesn't sell to Rental Fleets. So odds aren't good you can rent one, unless you can find an agency that buys used cars and rents them. They do exist. But they're pretty rare. What you need is a nice dealer who will let you do a weekend test drive. Also kind of rare - I get that privilege at several dealerships where I live because I "know" people. If it weren't for that, I'd have to find a friend.
Having said all that - the LS isn't that much smoother than the Avalon! I admit that. The panache, comfort, features, and options, especially on the L are the difference, and also the power from the V-8, the Rear Wheel Drive and tuning make it handle differently. They're not that great in the snow. The Avalon is better there. I love the Avalon - I could be happy in one. I may be in one someday. Never know in times like these.
The price difference is horrendous. Some say it's not worth it. They may be right. But once you've had an LS, it's hard to go back to the Toyota, if you can afford the LS. I buy them used, so I can. And astonishingly, the mileage is about the same! I get 23 in town consistently.
#1325 of 1645 Re: 2013 First look: Concept Avalon, [nvbanker]
Dec 31, 2011 (9:10 am)
Hi, all great advice. I'll be trying to find one to test drive for a nice long trip, so that I can make a decision on wether or not it's the car I REALLY want.
Many of my trips are 750 miles or longer, so quiet and comfortable is REAL important to me.
My 2011 Avalon is reasonable quiet / smooth, but NOT as much as I'd like. When Trailer Trucks, Loud Motorcycles, Trains, Construction Sites, and worst of all, LOUD Rain become a real pain. I have to turn the radio up, or live with the noise, for a period of time.
All small issues in the scheme of things, but more pet peeves at best.
My 1996 Buick Park Avenue was a TON more comfortable, and all most as quick. But as we all know, they don't make cars like they use to.
I must admit, getting a 3+- year old LS L for the same or a bit more, then a 2013 Avalon, is a bit tough to take, but again, if it's what you really want, and as my wife would say "If you keep the car longer then a year, just buy the damn thing!"
#1326 of 1645 Re: 2013 First look: Concept Avalon, [ncee]
Jan 02, 2012 (5:37 pm)
Would a tire change make your 2011 Avalon road noise quieter?
Mine seems pretty quiet and I don't notice much noise from other vehicles, either. (I probably will now, though.)
If you want a quiet car, just bite it and buy what you really want. I drove loaners while my Avalon was in (lots of days in loaners!) and I couldn't wait to get the Avalon back. Especially missed my ventilated seats.
I had a rattle in the dash after about a year (got mine 6/2010) and the guy at the dealer knew right where it was before I told him- center dash, toward the windshield. They padded it and now it's quiet again.
MY AVALON'S REMOTES ARE THE ABSOLUTE WORST!!! TELL EVERYONE TO TRY IT OUT BEFORE THEY BUY!!! DO NOT BUY THE REMOTE START UNLESS YOU WILL BE STANDING RIGHT BESIDE YOUR CAR WHEN YOU START IT. THEN WHEN YOU OPEN THE DOOR, THE ENGINE TURNS OFF. I don't want to warm up my car at home, so the only time I would start it ahead of time is when it's been parked somewhere and I want it to heat or cool a few minutes ahead. IT WILL NOT START. TOYOTA GAVE ME A $499 REBATE CHECK WHEN THE CAR WAS 18 MONTHS OLD. I have never, ever been able to use the remote start when I wanted it. Ever.
I took my car in several times for days at a time and one thing I noticed, and had to point out to them, was that the car didn't seem to even recognize the key fobs much of the time. What I kept hearing is that the car started every time for them. When I told them to SHOW me how well the car starts, it worked less than half the time. "Gee, it worked every time before." I was told it worked every time up to 170 feet. Once they even said the remotes didn't work because there were too many other Toyotas around.
They did a few things including changing out my key fobs for new ones. The new ones are even worse. When I called my Michigan dealer, Serra Toyota, to ask to have them changed again, the service manager said, "The engineer said there's nothing wrong with your car. They won't change it again".
I called Toyota and was told that OPTIMAL distance for the key fobs is 60-70 feet; less with interference. 25 feet is usual. I used to be able to find my Highlander in a parking lot by using the panic button, but these are so weak, they work from about 4 parking spots away. It's really bad. I can't believe it. My Highlander and 4Runner have great distance. The Avalon is crap for remotes.
Another thing, if you have ANY hip problems, the Avalon seat won't let you sit with your hips at a 90 degree angle. Sitting with my hip flexed so much hurts. I don't have that problem in a 4Runner because I can straighten out a little. The Avalon seat is more of a bucket seat.