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#1197 of 1645 Re: New, Really New Avalon? [gramz]
by nimimi
Sep 04, 2011 (8:26 pm)
I've seen this ridiculous "review" before. If it were really a review of the Avalon, it would have been written by English-speakers since the Avalon is a US-made car. Do you really think that Toyota is bringing back the Touring model? Look at the specs: 210 HP?, 15 inch wheels? cassette player!!! This looks as if it were the weekend project of some 5th graders playing with the internet! The main point is that if the 2012 Avalon is anywhere near production, you wouldn't be seeing any new 2011's arriving from the manufacturer as they would have to have ceased production in order to produce the 2012's. But, they're still delivering 2011's so the 2012 is a long, long way off.
See for years and models by year: http://pressroom.toyota.com/press_kit_index.cfm?pkYear=2012&prod_brand_id=1
#1198 of 1645 Re: New, Really New Avalon? [nimimi]
by gramz
Sep 05, 2011 (6:23 am)
Not sure what to say. I looked at what I thought were 2012s, The sticker in the window said 2012, however I could not see any difference in them and my 2011. I looked at two different ones and both of them had 2012 on the sticker. This was the only reason for me to believe there were 2012s
Sep 05, 2011 (6:33 am)
The car magazines say the 2012 Avalons are almost identical to the 2011!
#1200 of 1645 Re: New, Really New Avalon? [gramz]
by nan48
Sep 05, 2011 (8:05 am)
It's probably a 2012. After all they can't change the vin number. Like I stated, "they say the 2012 is a mirror image of the 2011". Personally I have not looked. I suspect there might be a little change. NOW the 2013 might change. I'm guessing you could buy a 2011 a lot cheaper than the 2012. If so I would buy the 2011 because of money. NOW the 2012 will be worth more money because a newer year. Of course this goes without saying.
#1201 of 1645 Re: New, Really New Avalon? [gramz]
by nimimi
Sep 05, 2011 (9:39 am)
If you saw Avalons at the dealer and they had stickers that said they were 2012 models, I'd ask the dealer how they can display models that Toyota has yet to release.
#1202 of 1645 Re: Milage Update [nan48]
by nvbanker
Sep 06, 2011 (9:45 am)
I COULD be wrong (but I doubt it
), but the cars computer can likely measure your MPG at least as accurately, if not moreso, than you can manually. The variable is always exactly how full the full tank is. Either way you figure it.
#1203 of 1645 Re: Milage Update [nvbanker]
by gramz
Sep 06, 2011 (2:57 pm)
I believe over a period of time the computer is more accurate. I've not reset my since I bought it and it reads 27.6. I check each tank manually and it varies a lot but after 21,000 miles the manual calculation is within .2 mpg of the computer. I always set the pump handle on the second notch and when it shut off I stop. I think the pressure the gas is delivered probably affect this somewhat.
I'll go with the computer.
#1204 of 1645 Re: Milage Update [gramz]
by nan48
Sep 06, 2011 (8:11 pm)
No, I'll stick with my figures. I HOPE I am wrong. I fill up the same way every time. First click off then I add no more gas. I reset the computer every time and it's always off about 2 MPG, a little less but NEVER more than 2. I know every fill up checked by hand will not be the same. I hope I'm wrong.
HOWEVER with that said, I test drove a Ford Truck today with a Lance camper. The Ford truck has a 6.0 engine with a 4.10 rear end. The lance camper weights about 38 hundred pounds. Now this truck is a dually and again I'll remind you it has a 4.10 rear end. Automatic. THE COMPUTER on this "King Ranch Ford" said it was getting 16.2 MPG. The man said he figures he gets around 13.5 hauling. 16 empty. So is this computer off? You would have to understand how these campers cut down on gas milage. NOT just the weight but wind resistance. Hope this helps. This was a 2006 model. Here's the camper:
http://www.rvtraderonline.com/listing/2005-Lance-921-99223180
#1205 of 1645 Re: Milage Update [gramz]
by nan48
Sep 06, 2011 (8:11 pm)
No, I'll stick with my figures. I HOPE I am wrong. I fill up the same way every time. First click off then I add no more gas. I reset the computer every time and it's always off about 2 MPG, a little less but NEVER more than 2. I know every fill up checked by hand will not be the same. I hope I'm wrong.
HOWEVER with that said, I test drove a Ford Truck today with a Lance camper. The Ford truck has a 6.0 engine with a 4.10 rear end. The lance camper weights about 38 hundred pounds. Now this truck is a dually and again I'll remind you it has a 4.10 rear end. Automatic. THE COMPUTER on this "King Ranch Ford" said it was getting 16.2 MPG. The man said he figures he gets around 13.5 hauling. 16 empty. So is this computer off? You would have to understand how these campers cut down on gas milage. NOT just the weight but wind resistance. Hope this helps. This was a 2006 model. Here's the camper:
http://www.rvtraderonline.com/listing/2005-Lance-921-99223180
#1206 of 1645 Re: Milage Update [nan48]
by nvbanker
Sep 08, 2011 (10:42 am)
Do you always use the same gas pump? If not, your hand calculations are not likely right, while a long term computer figure is bound to be very accurate. Tank to tank measurements are subject to wide variations, with either method.