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#1 of 1735 2011 Toyota Avalon
Dec 11, 2009 (3:53 pm)
If a brand-new 2011 Avalon is coming in February or March, the dealers should be getting their order books this month. Anyone hear of a factory shutdown to retool? Any news?
#2 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [kenb757]
Dec 23, 2009 (10:36 am)
Well, if there is a new Avalon in the works for March, I've never seen such a well-kept secret. Don't hold your breath! Looks like Toyota is going to give this market to the Buick Lacrosse and Ford Taurus.
#3 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [kenb757]
Dec 24, 2009 (4:49 am)
Looks like Toyota is going to give this market to the Buick Lacrosse and Ford Taurus
kenb, you are so right, take a look below at the dwindling sales year after. Add the Hyundai Genesis to this market and suddenly the Avalon is out-classed.
Calendar year-- US sales
#4 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [bwia]
Dec 24, 2009 (7:11 am)
Looking at the chart you show basically is what happens to cars over time. In 2000 the Avalon was all new and sales were high then by 04 (the end of that generation, sales dropped). Then in '05 sales were strong with the redesign and gradually started falling. If the Avalon does get a redesign sales will increase. Don't forget about $4.00 a gallon gas in this as well. Large cars and SUVs took huge hit while everyone was flocking to smaller vehicles.
Add the Hyundai Genesis to this market and suddenly the Avalon is out-classed.
FWIW I have an '09 Genesis that I leased when my '06 Avalon came off lease. Its a good car but IMO the Avalon more than holds its own. I would most likely be in another Avalon if the '09 had been different from my '06.
#5 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [tjc78]
Dec 24, 2009 (8:18 am)
How about a quick real world gas mileage comparison on the Genesis and Avalon...based on your type driving, city and highway. Gotta admit the Genesis looks good... but gas prices are important to consider, for me anyway. Thanks.
Happy Holidays to all..........
#6 of 1735 2011 Avalon news and colors
Dec 24, 2009 (8:40 am)
I talked to a local Toyota dealer: they said to see an all-new Avalon at either NAIAS or Chicago.
Also, the exterior/interior colors have been (probably mistakenly) revealed on the web: http://www.myride.com/content/research/vir/index.cfm/action/Colors/series_id_int- /62367
There will be only two trim levels this time: Avalon (base) and Avalon Limited (no XL/XLS/Limited). Although the specs, photos, and pricing are mainly placeholders from the 2010 model for now, I don't expect it to stay that way for long.
There will be three new colors:
-Cypress Pearl (Avalon exclusive dark green)
-Sizzling Crimson Mica (Avalon exclusive bright red)
-Zephyr Blue Metallic (Avalon exclusive; similar to Blue Mirage Metallic)
Familiar colors Black, Blizzard Pearl, Classic Silver Metallic, Cocoa Bean Metallic, Magnetic Gray Metallic, and Sandy Beach Metallic will stay.
Three interior color choices will be:
-Black (Black/Bordeaux on Limited)
I wonder what else will be new? New engine? New interior appointments? Maybe it will be a hybrid across the line?
#7 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [fin]
Dec 24, 2009 (9:14 am)
How about a quick real world gas mileage comparison on the Genesis and Avalon
The Avalon has a slight advantage over the Genesis. My driving is almost all city or heavy/gridlock highway. The Avalon was good for 20.5 - 21.5 over the entire time I owned it. The Genesis is about 1 mpg lower overall (19.5- 20.5). On a long highway trip at 75-80 the Avalon had no problem with 29-30 the Genesis is around high 27s to 28. Having said that my Genesis only has 7300 miles and my long highway trip was with under 4000 on the clock.
#8 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [bwia]
Dec 24, 2009 (11:24 am)
Interesting comments. Anyone who is interested in a comfortable, roomy, automobile like the Avalon might buy the Ford Taurus, but certainly not the Buick Lacrosse, because the rear seat/trunk room is just not there.
As tjc posts, the Genesis is possibly in the same class as the Avalon, but certainly not way out in front.
My opinion is that the Avalon is not dead just yet.
#9 of 1735 Re: 2011 Toyota Avalon [popsavalon]
Dec 30, 2009 (8:23 am)
To me, the problem of room is not in the rear seat, but in the front. Both the Taurus and Lacrosse have huge (read wide) center consoles that cut way down on horizontal knee room. The Avalon seems to have more room leg width wise. Maybe this should be a dimension that is listed in standard specifications. I wouldn't buy any car that I can't get comfortable in and these two are examples, along with the CTS and XKF. Lacrosse and Taurus need a bench seat option to be competitive. On the other hand the current Lucerne and DTS have ample room here even with the console.
#10 of 1735 So what do you want for a 2011 Avalon?
Jan 05, 2010 (11:52 am)