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#1726 of 1735 Re: Extended warranty worth the cost? [fin]
Nov 13, 2013 (10:40 am)
by fin: Consumer Reports is right, the warranty extension to 100k is a waste of money at any price provided you start with a solid nameplate, as above. Now, if you buy a lesser name... different story maybe... my experience anyway.
Consumer Report might be right but I assure you this. *IF* you sell the car then a 100 thousand mile warranty will help the resell. This is why I bought the 8yr, 100 thousand mile warranty and the only reason. I hope I never have to use it and knowing me, I'll probably sell my Avalon before I owned it 8 years. Hope this helps and I didn't mean to sound rude.
#1727 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [nan48]
Nov 13, 2013 (10:41 am)
I highly recommend the Michelin Primacy.....smooth, quiet, and seem to have good wet weather behavior. Love mine.
#1728 of 1735 Michelin Primacy
Nov 13, 2013 (3:31 pm)
Michelin Primacy tires hmm, thanks for the tire advice. I have 27 thousand miles on my 2011 Avalon and I'll keep this in mind when I purchase a set. It might be a while before I buy any. My tires have been rotated every oil change but they seem to be wearing more than they should so I thought I would ask. Is anyone else have this problem? My Avalon came with Bridgestone tires.
#1729 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [nan48]
Nov 13, 2013 (4:33 pm)
First, I would never go to Discount Tire. My husband bought their tires and there were always 2-3 weights on each tire just to balance them. Every time they were rotated, he had to go back again to have them re-balanced. It was never right the first time and he had the tires for quite awhile. He had a slow leak and they couldn't find it. He put air in that tire over and over until he bought a new car. I go to Belle Tire (always one next to Discount Tire) and never have a problem with them.
My 2011 Avalon came with Michelin Energy MXV4 S8. Radial XSE. I drive fast and I like them. I had a car years ago that came with another brand tire and the ride and interior noise were much improved when I changed to Michelins. I was so young, I didn't even know the tires would make a difference and I noticed it immediately.
Living in Michigan, I bought snow tires for the Avalon. After paying $80 to have the tires put on my factory rims, I bought new black rims for the snow tires. (I am a woman and never look at rims, but the black ones really are nice!) Belle Tire now changes out my tires in the spring and fall at no charge.
I keep meticulous records so I know the mileage on each set of tires. I record the mileage on the car and on each set of tires when they are put on. I have the mechanic mark the tire location on each tire when they are taken off the car. When the tires are put on next time, I have them rotated from the marks that are on them.
I make sure the tires are not rotated when I have the oil changed. I don't want them rotated back to their old position right after they are put on.
IF YOU BUY NEW RIMS, THE LOW TIRE SENSOR WILL COME ON EVERY TIME YOU DRIVE. It comes on at about 12 miles. Four new TPMS sensors would be $278, so I just ignore the dash light. The sensor works again when the all season tires are put on in the spring. I was told I would need OEC57 sensors put inside the valve stem in order to monitor for low tire pressure. I got along without sensors for decades and don't feel I have to have them year round.
If using snow tires, make sure you have the proper lug wrenchs, lug locks, and lug nuts for each type of tire. ie. If I need to use my spare in the winter, I have the snow lug wrench adapter and also the all-season lug nuts needed for the spare.
The snow tires are Bridgestone BLIZZAK WS-70. 215/55R17 94T. They were $130 each 12/2010. I needed tires with a high speed rating for expressway use (very high speed) and the handling is very good. I don't notice any difference in handling at any speed. There is a very slight tire noise at slow speeds that doesn't bother me and I am usually bothered by any noise. (The rattle in my dash in cold weather is a different story.) I don't notice it unless I listen for it when the snows are put on. After a day or two, I don't even hear it.
The rims are Raceline 196-Sniper BLKMIR +40 from Belle Tire. $102/each, but there are cheaper ones available.
The alternative is paying $80 every spring and $80 every fall to have the tires put on my factory rims. For $160/year and the extra time waiting for the tires to be put on rims, it made sense for me to just buy new rims.
#1730 of 1735 Re: Extended warranty worth the cost? [nan48]
Nov 13, 2013 (5:32 pm)
If the warranty is still in effect with significant time and mileage remaining then Yes, it certainly could help the resale value and you would recover some of the cost. The extended warranty also provides peace of mind to some people and that's worth every penny you pay.
As cars gain more electronic devices and components the longer warranty may become more popular. Many electronic parts tend to fail more as they age and are not generally mileage dependent. Low miles, they still fail.
Bottom line: If you have 38k, give or take, for the new car..... you have 750 for the longer warranty. Any question in your mind, get the warranty. My personal experience, and that of many relatives and friends, is that they are not necessary. But we have yet to experience the $2000. failure of the combo CD/XM/Nav/Radar/Bluetooth/DVD/TV/IrisScan/WebCam/Ipod/HeartRateMonitor device in the dashboard....
#1731 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [robin5]
Nov 13, 2013 (5:54 pm)
Thanks Robin5 for the input on your tires. I am a man, but like you I keep really good records. I log everything, even MPG every fill up etc. I even include each time I wax and wash my car. I do this for resell value. People love records and it only takes a little time to write something down.
I live in the South (not Florida) so I won't be changing rims or tires like you've been doing. I like a good soft riding tire. I feel my Bridgestone tires give me a tad bid of a rough ride. So I'm looking for a good soft tire that won't offset my MPG.
I'm not sure what tire to buy when I get ready. Someone said I should buy the Michelin Primacy tire.
I do want to thank you for the time you took to write down your tire situation. I bet you wish Avalon came in an AWD (all wheel drive) version.
On the extended warranty. I did buy one first thing. I know it doesn't go into effect until the factory warranty runs out. I bought an expensive one 8 yr. 100 thousand mile warranty. I choose that one mainly because I might sell this car in a few years. MIGHT! So having a warranty REALLY helps the resell. I'm truly not a fan of extended warranties but after someone posted they spent 1200 dollars on a broken rearview mirror. Well, I thought it would be a good investment. Especially since the Avalon LTD has so many electronic devices.
Thanks again, Bill
2011 Avalon Limited, with 27 thousand miles. No problems to report except a popping in the steering wheel. This was fixed early on by the dealer. Love the car, love the ride and love the MPG this big car gets. I really LOVE the back seat. I mean wow!
#1732 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [nan48]
Nov 14, 2013 (7:51 am)
Nan48, I agree with your final comments about your 2011 Avalon completely. I have a 2007 with just 65K miles and it is still a great car. I find it interesting that Toyota went looking for a different market in 2013 and it apparently worked, because I read that Avalon sales have increased with the new model.
I think I would be hard pressed to find a vehicle in 2014 with the same room, ride and MPG.
#1733 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [popsavalon]
Nov 14, 2013 (8:03 am)
I agree as well, but think they could have the same, well even MORE sales had the at least made the LTD version, an Old Farts model. You know, smoother, quieter, more comfortable car. Hell they could have keep it the same size as earlier models, including the big back seat, that reclined, and not lost any sales because of this.
Those younger folks who wanted a Sportier car, could have had the Touring or LE models, and us folks looking for an Avalon of olde, could have one.
While I lament over the fact that bigger, quiet, comfortable cars are getting harder and harder to find, I KNOW there is a market, because for years, we have purchased them, and still would, if they in fact made them.
Yes the New Avalon is selling well, and yes it is to a younger market, but they COULD have done this, by simply bring back the Solara or MR2 or other model, that they could have redesigned and left the Avalon for the market place it was designed for.
#1734 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [ncee]
Nov 14, 2013 (10:16 am)
Skip, I agree totally. I'm guessing it's about the almighty dollar. I suspect it cost LESS to produce a smaller car.
I also suspect the 2012 Avalon is the last of the big cars you'll see. I hope that isn't true but I'm guessing it is.
If I go smaller than I might REALLY go smaller and buy a Prius C. I might, my wife says, "yea, wait to you drive one, then you'll see, you'll never buy a car that small". Don't get me wrong, we've bought and sold tons and tons of Honda's, Toyota's, etc., small cars in the past.
My 2011 still has a lot of life left in it. So for now I'll just keep mine unless I was offered the right money for it. I mean everything is for sale, right? (except the wife and dog) At least it's been that way in my house.
I guess I should state my back ground was dealing/whole selling cars to big dealerships. One rule we had in the business was "NEVER fall in LOVE with your inventory". Hard rule to follow but a good one. My wife reminds me that HER 2011 Avalon is NOT in my inventory. Plus I've been out of that business nearly 25 years. lol, boy time flies.
Stay Warm, Bill/Nan48
#1735 of 1735 Re: tire sensor light [nan48]
Nov 15, 2013 (6:09 am)
Agree that the back seat is great - or at least that's what our passengers tell us. But I think the back seat was designed at the expense of some trunk space? We travel frequently and our Lexus ES 300 (a smaller car) seemed to have much more usable trunk space that our 2011 limited.