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#65 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [priggly]
Oct 21, 2010 (6:05 pm)
I bought My 2010 legacy about 11 months ago, it has 30,000km on it now. I have a huge proble with shaking, the whole car shakes when I drive over 100kph. the passanger front seat shakes like crazy. I really hate driving this car. Its been 2 months since I brought this issue to the dealer and they have put a suspension package on it and that didn't work so they have been waitng on a subaru rep to come in to test drive it and inspect it. 2 MONTHS thats crazy. This is my second subaru, I had a 2008 WRX but I traded it in for the legacy because my wife was pregnant. I loved that car and never had a problem! Im truly dissapointed in this car! I had very hi hopes for it. Now im not sure if I will ever buy a subaru again. if they don't fix it soon they will lose me as a customer forever!!!!!
#66 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [joenova]
Oct 21, 2010 (8:42 pm)
The pain and frustration your are feeling are palpable in your post. I sympathize with you.
It is experiences such as yours that are making many prospective buyers, including previous Subaru buyers, very leery now of the Outback. I will certainly not buy one given the present situation.
I therefore am looking elsewhere and considering the Forester (which is a poor second to the Outback in my opinion but a creditable vehicle nevertheless) as well as other brands including the Equinox and the new Grand Cherokee.
It is really a shame that Subaru is tarnishing its previous good reputation over this issue but this shaking thing is now in its second year and still new "shakers" are being built and sold according to posts on other forums.
I hope you get your car properly and truly fixed. Life is way too short to be spent with vibrating hands and arms and, in your particular case the entire car, as you cruise on down the highway!
#67 of 145 Re: low speed steering wheel vibration in a new 2011 2.5 w/ CVT Outback [clarkkent]
Oct 22, 2010 (8:49 am)
Outback simply clobbers the Crosstour while costing less. And that's not just Edmunds' opinion - it's true in Consumer Reports as well. Even the 4 cylinder Outback easily outscores the Crosstour.
It also costs less than a similarly equipped Venza, and again, CR rated the 4 banger Outback higher.
So I dunno about the "better than OB" and "less in cost" part.
If you're not happy with Subaru, I can't blame you for buying something else next time, though.
Personally I'd like to see the Koreans try harder - their sedans get DI engines but their crossovers get weaker versions of the same engines, and they're not as powerful nor as fuel efficient. Disappointing.
#68 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [priggly]
Oct 22, 2010 (9:00 am)
It was the hideous appearance of the new Outback, as well as the bloated price, that steered me away from it last year when I purchased a Forester. I had previously owned three Outbacks, but wouldn't even consider the new one.
If this was a brand new company to the automotive industry, I can maybe understand something like this steering shake issue, but there is really no reason why it should be so persistent and pervasive on a model that is in its fifth generation.
#69 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [xwesx]
Oct 22, 2010 (9:58 am)
If this was a brand new company to the automotive industry, I can maybe understand something like this steering shake issue, but there is really no reason why it should be so persistent and pervasive on a model that is in its fifth generation
This shake comes with introduction of a new "frame" (front unit body parts). No one has discussed the possibility of a front end unit body problem. I'm reminded of my 1965 Mustang V8 which developed the shakes when the lower firewall had thinned from rust. I replaced all suspension components, but that didn't help.
A shock tower brace kit like those installed on some WRXs might be a way to determine whether the front unibody is the source of the shake.
#70 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [saedave]
Oct 22, 2010 (12:12 pm)
Thanks for posting that! After I keyed the last message, I began to think along the same lines. It's not the components, it's likely the structure to which they are attached.
It makes sense, too, especially with regard to the problem becoming increasingly worse over time. If this is the problem, I hope they address it soon because if the shake does grow worse, it will eventually cause a structural failure that could prove disastrous if it occurs at the wrong time.
#71 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [xwesx]
Oct 22, 2010 (12:38 pm)
I'm glad we both are just spectators in this debacle; our new Foresters not only look better than the Outback but are more reliable too.
If it is indeed the front unibody, the resultant recall will make the Toyota fiasco a distant memory. I wonder if there are any Toyota parts involved?
#72 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [xwesx]
Oct 22, 2010 (3:07 pm)
Wes and Dave,
Apart from better appearance and reliability compared to the latest generation "shaking" Outback, how else do you like your Foresters?
Can you comment on cabin noise levels at highway speeds, stock audio system quality, NAV system if you have it and ride quality? Normal 2.5 engine adequate or is the turbo the ticket?
I am in the situation of finally deciding to turn my "back" on the Outback because I will absolutely not chance getting a shaker and then the hoops I would have to jump through to get a "fix!" [Reminds me of a Subaru joke: Q. How is a new Outback owner like a heroin addict? A. They are both desperately looking forward to their next "fix!"]
Thanks for any info you can provide.
#73 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [priggly]
Oct 22, 2010 (4:01 pm)
My Forester Xt has very low engine and exhaust noise at highway speed, but possibly more wind noise than my previous 2005 Outback 3.0R. Ride quality is better than the 3.0R; braking is very much better. 40 to 70 mph accelleration is adequate; 0-40 performance much better than the 3.0R.
I don't like the exhaust rap (heard in the cabin) on the naturally aspirated 2010 Forester; it is identical to my long ago 1997 Legacy GT. The 2011 Forester appears to have a new header and exhaust manifold design; it may have eliminated the problem.
The 2011 without turbo...if it has the better block design from the turbo...might be a good bet. A test drive will tell.
#74 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [xwesx]
Oct 23, 2010 (12:24 pm)
It makes sense, too, especially with regard to the problem becoming increasingly worse over time. If this is the problem, I hope they address it soon because if the shake does grow worse, it will eventually cause a structural failure that could prove disastrous if it occurs at the wrong time
Another possibility that has not been mentioned is engine mounts. One poster said the shake starts after driving quite some time which would correlate to possible change in engine mounts (probably softer) with heat. I had a 1989 Maxima that developed poor steering after an engine mount failed.