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#62 of 145 acura owner
Oct 20, 2010 (5:46 pm)
i was seriously considering outback 2011...almost gave up, it's interesting that people still buy the car, most likely they just love subaru despite the problem, or they do not know about it, or they are lucky. By the way i was told that there is no difference between the 2010 and 2011 models, but only the folding side mirrors. One cannot change the structure, chassis , suspension etc of the car just for a month - impossible. It's a pity i've never been a big subaru fan, but heard that lasts forever, reliable top of the top on safety, 4x4 etc. By the way the limited model asking price is about $33 000, sounds very expensive for this type of car. Anyway any experience is welcome, it's great that other customer can share their experience here.
#63 of 145 Re: acura owner [jorot]
Oct 20, 2010 (6:37 pm)
I have been a Subaru "fan" for fourteen years and have a '97 Outback. It is a great car but it is not true they last "forever." I have spent thousands keeping mine on the road with the highest expense being an engine re-build because of the well-chronicled head gasket problem.
Reliability? I've been left stranded twice by mine (one occasion the head gasket at advanced mileage, the other the alternator when the car was almost new).
Safety? Definitely, yes. One of the safest cars on the road. It's known as the "Japanese Volvo" which is probably a misnomer because lots of cars are as safe as Volvos.
The AWD capability is also second to none. If it's possible to get through it, Subaru will do it!
The price is indeed high enough (even higher in Canada) but it is going to continue on up because of currency debasement. The company has no choice.
I would have moved on to a new 2010 or '11 model by now but not with the shake issue still unresolved. I am not one of those infinitely patient enough to jump through all the "fix" hoops in hopes of resolving a serious issue which has not yet been consistently and reproducibly resolved. But maybe in the next iteration. It's really too bad because otherwise the Outback is a truly great car.
#64 of 145 Re: low speed steering wheel vibration in a new 2011 2.5 w/ CVT Outback [jtcnomad]
Oct 21, 2010 (4:30 pm)
OK, I agree with you about the German, Swedish. That being said, there are many Korean cars BETTER than the OB. How about some Japanese brands that are just as good or better than the OB?? All those cars are probably less in cost than the Subie.
I have had 6 Subies and loved every one. Took several over 200k. But I'm not going to drive a car 200k with a shake.
So I will wait to see if they get it fixed (for real) if not, I'll be getting a Kia or Hyundai
(same company you know).
I'd rather have a Subie but only if it is guaranteed not to shake.
So I will wait till the end of this year. My dealer knows my position. I told him I would buy an OB (IF) the shake has been fixed.
#65 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [priggly]
Oct 21, 2010 (6:05 pm)
I bought My 2010 legacy about 11 months ago, it has 30,000km on it now. I have a huge proble with shaking, the whole car shakes when I drive over 100kph. the passanger front seat shakes like crazy. I really hate driving this car. Its been 2 months since I brought this issue to the dealer and they have put a suspension package on it and that didn't work so they have been waitng on a subaru rep to come in to test drive it and inspect it. 2 MONTHS thats crazy. This is my second subaru, I had a 2008 WRX but I traded it in for the legacy because my wife was pregnant. I loved that car and never had a problem! Im truly dissapointed in this car! I had very hi hopes for it. Now im not sure if I will ever buy a subaru again. if they don't fix it soon they will lose me as a customer forever!!!!!
#66 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [joenova]
Oct 21, 2010 (8:42 pm)
The pain and frustration your are feeling are palpable in your post. I sympathize with you.
It is experiences such as yours that are making many prospective buyers, including previous Subaru buyers, very leery now of the Outback. I will certainly not buy one given the present situation.
I therefore am looking elsewhere and considering the Forester (which is a poor second to the Outback in my opinion but a creditable vehicle nevertheless) as well as other brands including the Equinox and the new Grand Cherokee.
It is really a shame that Subaru is tarnishing its previous good reputation over this issue but this shaking thing is now in its second year and still new "shakers" are being built and sold according to posts on other forums.
I hope you get your car properly and truly fixed. Life is way too short to be spent with vibrating hands and arms and, in your particular case the entire car, as you cruise on down the highway!
#67 of 145 Re: low speed steering wheel vibration in a new 2011 2.5 w/ CVT Outback [clarkkent]
Oct 22, 2010 (8:49 am)
Outback simply clobbers the Crosstour while costing less. And that's not just Edmunds' opinion - it's true in Consumer Reports as well. Even the 4 cylinder Outback easily outscores the Crosstour.
It also costs less than a similarly equipped Venza, and again, CR rated the 4 banger Outback higher.
So I dunno about the "better than OB" and "less in cost" part.
If you're not happy with Subaru, I can't blame you for buying something else next time, though.
Personally I'd like to see the Koreans try harder - their sedans get DI engines but their crossovers get weaker versions of the same engines, and they're not as powerful nor as fuel efficient. Disappointing.
#68 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [priggly]
Oct 22, 2010 (9:00 am)
It was the hideous appearance of the new Outback, as well as the bloated price, that steered me away from it last year when I purchased a Forester. I had previously owned three Outbacks, but wouldn't even consider the new one.
If this was a brand new company to the automotive industry, I can maybe understand something like this steering shake issue, but there is really no reason why it should be so persistent and pervasive on a model that is in its fifth generation.
#69 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [xwesx]
Oct 22, 2010 (9:58 am)
If this was a brand new company to the automotive industry, I can maybe understand something like this steering shake issue, but there is really no reason why it should be so persistent and pervasive on a model that is in its fifth generation
This shake comes with introduction of a new "frame" (front unit body parts). No one has discussed the possibility of a front end unit body problem. I'm reminded of my 1965 Mustang V8 which developed the shakes when the lower firewall had thinned from rust. I replaced all suspension components, but that didn't help.
A shock tower brace kit like those installed on some WRXs might be a way to determine whether the front unibody is the source of the shake.
#70 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [saedave]
Oct 22, 2010 (12:12 pm)
Thanks for posting that! After I keyed the last message, I began to think along the same lines. It's not the components, it's likely the structure to which they are attached.
It makes sense, too, especially with regard to the problem becoming increasingly worse over time. If this is the problem, I hope they address it soon because if the shake does grow worse, it will eventually cause a structural failure that could prove disastrous if it occurs at the wrong time.
#71 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [xwesx]
Oct 22, 2010 (12:38 pm)
I'm glad we both are just spectators in this debacle; our new Foresters not only look better than the Outback but are more reliable too.
If it is indeed the front unibody, the resultant recall will make the Toyota fiasco a distant memory. I wonder if there are any Toyota parts involved?