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You are in the Subaru Legacy & Outback
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Subaru Outback, Sedan, Wagon
#126 of 145 Re: acura owner [priggly]
Jan 03, 2011 (9:56 am)
Did you get the Hemi or the Pentastar?
CR's February issue tested the Hemi-equipped Grand Cherokee and it did *not* demonstrate the same handling issues they encountered with the Pentastar V6 model, FWIW. Just got that mag last night.
The Hemi seems to be the better choice, given the weight of the Jeep. Plus, I'd choose a Grand Cherokee to tow and go off road, and for both those situations you'd want the extra torque. At 16mpg EPA city it's not like the Pentastar is a fuel miser anyway.
I priced a Hemi with the air suspension is it came up to about $42k US. That's definitely in a higher price class, but still a good value if it's in your budget to spend that much.
But ... is it an alternative to an Outback? That's where we disagree. Even if you forget about the price delta, people buy Outbacks because they don't want a truck, that's sort of the whole point. I think they would be more likely to cross-shop a Venza and a Crosstour, and IMHO the Outback is by far my choice among those 3 options.
As for the Explorer - Chrysler will soon offer the new Durango to compete with that.
#127 of 145 Re: acura owner [ateixeira]
Jan 07, 2011 (11:15 pm)
I bought the HEMI. The Pentastar is a questionable engine, I would not buy it. The HEMI is a proven winner!
As far as the Outback is concerned, that would have been my choice, but I am not prepared to take a choice on a shaker. Plus Subaru has become dishonest. Jeep has not.
#128 of 145 Jeep Grand Cherokee to Outback cross shopping
Jan 08, 2011 (9:15 am)
I've been following the to-and-fro regarding the JGC versus and Outback and am a bit suprised to find people comparing them as apples-to-apples. I saw a display JGC the other day (Costco lobby) and noticed it had about a 13/19 mileage rating. It also felt like it stood taller than our old ('92) Cherokee did.
I'm not sure about the comparo between two vehicles that get such widely divergent gas mileage, size and weight difference and price; about $40K versus $30K. I think someone above made a comment along the lines of "$10K more". To me that's not "merely" $10K, that's ONE THIRD more.
If doing that why not just go up to the Acura MDX.
#129 of 145 Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee to Outback cross shopping [easypar]
Jan 10, 2011 (12:53 pm)
I would never cross-shop these, I was reacting to him recommending an unusual alternative in a similar fashion to you.
Consumer Reports got just 9mpg in the city cycle, and since I don't need to tow or go off road that is a trade-off that I'm not willing to make.
#130 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [saedave]
Jan 13, 2011 (1:29 pm)
I'm asking for a little help/advice here. We drove the Forester (non-turbo version) after testing the Honda CR-V, and there was no comparison. We loved the Forester. I fell for the car. I've spent some time on the discussion site and looked at the comments on the Outback, as well as the Forester. It looks to me like the Forester is a better handling car, even though the Outback is more expensive. Even if the Outback is somewhat more cushy on the interior, has anybody got any reason why I should even consider the Outback over the "Touring" version of the 2011 Forester? Any advice as to whether I need the Touring over the Limited? I was absolutely amazed at how much more power and feel the 170 hp Forester had over the CR-V. The comfort was fine, and what I need is clarity of controls for my kids who will be learning to drive on this car. Thanks!
#131 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [bronstein]
Jan 13, 2011 (1:40 pm)
Well, the Forester has more torque, and I think it weighs a bit less than the CR-V.
Go for it, we're on our 2nd Forester, and RL Polk just announced the Forester was a repeat winner in owner loyalty for its class. It is an IIHS Top Safety Pick, ALG best residual value in its class, C&D 5Best Trucks, MT SUV of the Year, CR #1 pick in its class, plus it's cheaper than the Outback, and you get the massive moonroof.
I say splurge and get more equipment, since it was below your price target anyway.
Best of luck.
#132 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [bronstein]
Jan 13, 2011 (2:21 pm)
We own a 2005 Forester XT. My kids learned to drive in it and it was great because the visibility out the rear and side windows was unobstructed. Backing up is not a guessing game. I am not sure how the 2011 Forester compares for visibility, but the 11 is definitely a much bigger car to manuever. It should still be a good car to let your kids drive. I would not buy the Outback because of the Steering Wheel vibration issues.
The touring gives you the HID headlights. Take a test drive at night and see the difference. Good luck
#133 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [bronstein]
Jan 13, 2011 (2:40 pm)
It was not clear to me in your post if you have test driven the new Outback yet. I test drove the Forester when I was looking at the Outback and I thought the four speed transmission in the Forester was sluggish. I think the interior, ride, and transmission in the Outback is better than the Forester. But its also more expensive.
As for the shakes everyone keeps posting about, I test drove my Outback and it did not shake, so I bought it.
Forester or Outback, I'm sure you will be happy any Subaru, but thats my two cents.
Best of luck on your exciting purchase.
#134 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [thor14]
Jan 14, 2011 (6:18 am)
I've had a 2010 Outback for over a year. It now has about 16,000 miles on it. It had what I would define as minor steering wheel vibraton at speeds around 65 MPG. More of an annoyance than a problem. I had the tires rotated and the vibration disappeared. I've had the tires rotated since and it has not returned. I also owned a 2000 and 2004 Forester, both good cars. But for me, the Outback has been a step up. Very satisfied with it. Take one (or more) on test drives. I'm sure you will be satisfied with either model. BTW, my Outback is a Limited 4 cyl. with CVT. Very satisfied with the gas mileage, about 30 going 65 MPG and about 25 in mixed driving. Good luck!
#135 of 145 Re: Steering Wheel Vibration? [bronstein]
Jan 14, 2011 (6:25 am)
Post #134 should have been in reply to bronstein not thor 14. Sorry!!