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#257 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [overbrook]
Nov 01, 2010 (9:53 am)
The TSX V6 is about 1 sec faster than the Regal 2.0T
In the first place your acceleration numbers are absolutely not correct unless you are given to a bit of exaggeration.
In actuality, the Acura TSX with the 6 achieves 0-60 in 5.9 sec while the Buick Regal does it in 7.5. Hardly "about 1 second."
Of course you failed to mention the $5k price premium for the TSX V6
Now, let's compare apples to apples and not to apricots, shall we?
The price of the premium Acura TSX V6 according to the Acura website is $34,850 while the price of the premium Buick Regal Turbo is $34,435.
I have nothing against the new Buick Regal and in fact think it has the potential to be a world-class car, especially when it arrives as the Regal GS. But presently, it is underpowered and if it is to aspire to be the best then it is going to have to have exemplary acceleration because that parameter happens to be associated with world-class cars, e.g. BMW. Did you ever hear BMW described as having merely "adequate" acceleration?
The comments and rationale in this discussion actually bring up an interesting point. For far too long Americans have become accustomed to being satisfied with "adequate" and "good enough." Where has gone that burning desire to be the very best in the world? Unless attitudes change, mediocrity is going to be the rule rather than the exception. Personally, I would prefer excellence over mediocrity.
#258 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [priggly]
Nov 01, 2010 (11:05 am)
Not to get too far off topic, but without the gov'ts intervention, we would still be driving around gas guzzling behemoths that had no safety features whatsoever. It took a govt law to force automakers to install safety belts as standard. It took a law to force them to add airbags, something that has been universally accepted to save numerous lives. It took a law to force more fuel efficient engines. It took a law to force them to reduce tailpipe emissions. I could go on and on. Automakers, if left to their own devices, would simply do what they want and it would not be in the consumer's best interest. I surely would hope you don't think it's better to simply gorge on a finite supply of oil to satisfy your enthusiast desires. That kind of glutonous attitude is what is truly wrong with Americans. Should the govt control everything? NO! But, some guidance is required to convince them to do better. The market does not make the most rational decisions when left to its own devices.
#259 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [priggly]
Nov 01, 2010 (11:27 am)
".....Now, let's compare apples to apples and not to apricots, shall we?
The price of the premium Acura TSX V6 according to the Acura website is $34,850 while the price of the premium Buick Regal Turbo is $34,435"
Yes, but a BASE Regal turbo may be had for $28,745. NO TSX V6 can be had for less than $34,435. Not to mention the extra $110 for destination for the TSX over the Regal.
According to C&D's comparo, the as tested price difference is about $3,600 ($38,810 vs $35185 for the Regal T07) If you look at their final results on a point by point basis, The Regal scored as high as, or better than both the CC and TSX for the overall vehicle and the chassis, lagging only in powertrain (Duly noted in these arguments).
I have no doubt that anybody buying a Regal over the other 2 will be quite satisfied with their purchase.
#260 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [carfreak09]
Nov 01, 2010 (11:30 am)
I concur. While I too would like to be rolling around in a 900 hp supercharged 455 Lacrosse GSX, We DO have to be concerned with the availability of dino juice both short and long term.
#261 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [priggly]
Nov 01, 2010 (12:20 pm)
The base Regal has adequate power. The turbo Regal is far more than adequate, not a fast car but plenty powerful. If you want a lot of power, and a 5.9 sec 0-60 time, wait for GS and it's 255HP mill.
#262 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [dodgeman07]
Nov 01, 2010 (1:18 pm)
I presently drive a 2006 Chevy Impala SS which goes from 0-60 in 5.6 sec and still gives 26 miles to the gallon on the highway. It uses a pushrod V8 which is a fabulous engine and has not given me a moment's trouble in over four years. It is much simpler than any turbo and has less complex mechanicals. What, pray tell, is the advantage of a slower, more expensive, more complex engine the mileage of which is marginally greater, if at all?
Newer is not always better.
#264 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [priggly]
Nov 01, 2010 (1:32 pm)
".....I presently drive a 2006 Chevy Impala SS which goes from 0-60 in 5.6 sec and still gives 26 miles to the gallon on the highway."
More than likely, if you took a long drive in a new Regal, you will find you get north of 30 mpg. My father got over 30 in his 2010 Lacrosse with the 3.0 V6. I have yet to take mine on a long enough drive, but routinely got over 30 mpg in my '99 Ultra. 26 MPG in a V8 car is excellent for what it is.
#265 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [dodgeman07]
Nov 01, 2010 (1:33 pm)
The base Regal has adequate power.
That is entirely a matter of subjective opinion, not fact. In my opinion it is not adequate but slow and for that reason it does not meet my needs and I would not buy it.
#266 of 750 Re: The Buick Regal is TOO slow! [cooterbfd]
Nov 01, 2010 (1:37 pm)
I would much, much rather achieve 26 mpg in a car I dearly loved to drive (puts a smile on my face every time it lays me back against my seat at 80 mpg in southern Utah or West Texas) than achieve a minuscule 4 more mpg in a car that just ambles leisurely along.
That is not to say that a leisurely car is problematic, I simply prefer the raw power of the SS combined with very good gas mileage.