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Top 10 Dead or Dying Models - In the spirit of the aforementioned Mexican tradition, we've created this list celebrating the 10 expired or soon-to-be-departed models most worthy of your dime. Our picks are listed in alphabetical order. (more)

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#16 of 25 Re: Is the Kia Sedona going away too? [andre1969] by fezo

Oct 28, 2009 (7:09 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 28, 2009 4:46 pm)
You betcha!

#17 of 25 Re: Edmunds - Top 10 Dead or Dying Models [andre1969] by ronsmith38

Oct 28, 2009 (9:11 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Oct 28, 2009 5:23 am)
I read that a new Chevy Caprice police Cruiser will be based on, but not be a re-badged G8.

#18 of 25 Re: Edmunds - Top 10 Dead or Dying Models [ronsmith38] by bowtiefan1

Oct 29, 2009 (5:26 pm)

Replying to: ronsmith38 (Oct 28, 2009 9:11 pm)
The Chevy Caprice police cruiser will be based on a longer wheelbase version of the G8 (aka Holden Commodore). That model is called the Holden Statesman
and it uses the longest wheelbase of the Zeta platform at 118.5 inches vs. G8's 114.8 inch wheelbase.

#19 of 25 am I correct? by nippononly

Oct 30, 2009 (1:16 pm)

The Cobalt SS sedan is going away, but the coupe is sticking around right?
 
We need more cars like the SS.
 
While I was glancing at the write-up on the Cobalt, I noticed the XFE. I applaud the fuel economy, but is it true A/C isn't even optional from the factory?? Big no-no.
 
Some of these are a bit misleading - like the Z4 coupe is going away because the convertible is a hard-top. Not exactly the same thing I know, but close enough for the average consumer I bet.

#20 of 25 Re: am I correct? [nippononly] by berri

Oct 30, 2009 (5:36 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 30, 2009 1:16 pm)
Misleading is correct. I believe only one version of the new Malibu and Fusion actually beat the Camry in fuel economy. I understand they need to get consumer attention, but if the person buys a different version and is disappointed they risk credibility and repeat sales.

#21 of 25 Re: am I correct? [berri] by fezo

Oct 30, 2009 (6:24 pm)

Replying to: berri (Oct 30, 2009 5:36 pm)
Oh, the Chevy ads on gas mileage really do assume that you are an idiot.
 
I don't think I could buy anything Howie Long endorses....

#22 of 25 Re: am I correct? [fezo] by euphonium

Nov 01, 2009 (6:05 pm)

Replying to: fezo (Oct 30, 2009 6:24 pm)
I don't think I could buy anything Howie Long endorses....
 
Maybe it's his "cop hair"?

#23 of 25 Re: am I correct? [fezo] by anythngbutgm

Nov 02, 2009 (10:24 am)

Replying to: fezo (Oct 30, 2009 6:24 pm)
Ugh, those commercials come off as condescending, arrogant and just plain classless. And where the heck did they pick up the guy for the "cop hair" one? I was waiting for him to open up his jacket and offer Howie a deal on a stolen watch or something.

#24 of 25 Re: am I correct? [nippononly] by andre1969

Nov 02, 2009 (11:17 am)

Replying to: nippononly (Oct 30, 2009 1:16 pm)
I just tried to spec out a Cobalt, and it left me confused. However, here's how I interpreted it...
 
The Cobalt XFE is the base, stripper model. It doesn't have a/c, and also has taller transmission/transaxle gearing and lower-resistance tires and small-ish 15" steel wheels.
 
You can get a nicer LS or LT model with XFE badging, but you have to specify the manual transmission and 15" steel wheels with the low-resistance tires. However, an LS or LT is going to have a/c. So my guess is that they throw out those enticing numbers using the strippo XFE model, but if you get an LS or LT with XFE badging, it'll get somewhat worse.

#25 of 25 Re: am I correct? [andre1969] by dispencer2

Feb 09, 2010 (2:17 pm)

Replying to: andre1969 (Nov 02, 2009 11:17 am)
I have a 2009 LT1 red coupe. I picked it up off the lot in the fall of 2008 when they had that Employees Discount. If I had ordered the LT2 I wanted it would have had the same discount a month or so later. In any case the LT1 is fine. I get around 23 in town and as much as 41 on the road- normally around 38. The car rides better than any similar size car I've ever driven and has been dependable. I frankly think that Chevrolet is stupid to replace a sporty coupe with the new 4 door sedan. When I replace it I'll look for another red coupe. The Cobalt was supposed to be the "international" car. CU always hated it -probably because GM built it - but now it has been forgotten and the new car will be the "international" car. What a load of BS -sounds like politics. As far as I'm concerned the Cobalt is a great city car and gets good gas mileage on the road. The seats are too short for long distance drives -your thighs down near your knees hurt after several hours because they don't have much support.. The bottom of the seat should be wider so as to give good support. My Cadillac is fine.

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