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#13 of 71 Why E-85 fuel?
by budh
Jan 01, 2010 (9:45 pm)
The 2010 Escape/Mariner can use E-85 fuel (mostly ethanol with about 15% gasoline) and the engine will adjust settings to allow this fuel to be used.
But having checked www.fueleconomy.gov and checked the gas mileage using gasoline and E-85 fuel, it is 20 mpg average using gasoline and 14 mpg average using E-85. A whopping 30% reduction in gas mileage! In my area, E-85 sells for about 10% less than gasoline, 15% less at the most.
So why would anyone spend 10 to 15% less money per gallon on E-85 to get 30% worse gas mileage?
I wish Ford spent their time perfecting this engine to use gasoline and only gasoline for better performance with gasoline and not spent time and effort on an engine that uses E-85.
Bud H
#14 of 71 Re: Why E-85 fuel? [budh]
by tidester
Jan 01, 2010 (11:48 pm)
So why would anyone spend 10 to 15% less money per gallon on E-85 to get 30% worse gas mileage?
Using your numbers, it's not quite as bad if you look at the cost per mile. E-85 works out to being only 18% worse.
The "why" part of your question is a little harder and looks like multiple choice:
(a) The farm lobby is more influential than the oil lobby.
(b) Ethanol is federally subsidized.
(c) It reduces oil imports by 85%
(d) Less oil usage is good for the planet.
(e) What else would you spend the money on?
In any case, happy new year!
tidester, host
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#15 of 71 Re: Why E-85 fuel? [tidester]
by budh
Jan 02, 2010 (7:28 pm)
When I last checked in my area (northern Indiana), 87 octane gasoline was $2.70 and E-85 was $2.40
$2.40 divided by 14 mpg = 17.14 cents per mile for E-85
$2.70 divided by 20 mpg = 13.50 cents per mile for 87 octane gasoline
So the net cost per mile is 27% higher for E-85. MUCH too big a difference to be seriously considered.
Bud H
#16 of 71 Vibration Problem
by scottsm
Jan 04, 2010 (8:46 pm)
I just purchased a new 2010 4 cyl Escape. When stepping on the brake with the car in drive there is a very noticeable vibration felt in the drivers seat and the brake pedal. The Ford hotline says this is a vehicle characterisic. I am not so sure about this. Does anyone have an answer or the same problem?
#17 of 71 Escape or Mariner?
by budh
Jan 08, 2010 (10:33 pm)
I'm looking at both the 2010 Escape and Mercury Mariner, intending to get the Limited package with all options other than the navigation system.
1. What attributes does the Mariner have that are plusses compared to the Escape?
2. Is the 4-cylinder engine good enough for use that is only moderately aggressive at best and is the engine almost as quiet as the V6?
Bud H
#19 of 71 Re: Vibration Problem [scottsm]
by mariner10275
Jan 12, 2010 (9:36 am)
I have a 2010 Mariner 4cyl with the same issue - it had only 4 miles on it when i took it home. took it to the dealer and they compared it with another new mariner and said it felt the same so it was a normal vehicle characteristic. I wonder about this however because not everyone seems to report this issue. I have seen in other forms suggestions that it may be motor/transmission mounts or an exhaust hanger that is too tight causing metal to metal contact between the engine and exhaust pipe.
#20 of 71 Re: Escape or Mariner? [budh]
by mariner10275
Jan 12, 2010 (9:42 am)
It was slightly cheaper to get a Mariner with some of the same options as a comparable XLT, and the styling is a bit more urban/luxury CUVish. My 2010 mariner has tinted glass, Leather seats, sunroof, SYNC (with bluetooth), Siruius radio, roof rails (no cargo package though), and was about $600 less than a comparable XLT. However, in hindsight, I would have gone with the V6 for the superior highway cruising/merging/passing. The gas milage is not too bad of trade off at 19/25 and its about $1,000 more.
#21 of 71 Re: Escape or Mariner? [budh]
by normkol
Jan 14, 2010 (11:02 am)
Mariner only comes in two leverls, base and Premier. Escape comes in XLS, XLT, and Limited. Limited and Premier are roughly equal, Mariner Base is a cross between XLS and XLT.
You've really got to look at the individual car, what options it has. I bought at a Ford/Lincoln Mercury dealer, so I had a choice of both. I took a Mariner Premier because of the combination of engine, color, and options.
I test drove a 4 cyl and the V6. I was coming off a Tribute V6. The 4 just didn't have the pep I wanted, I had hoped it would. I have a Honda Accord 4 cyl and that has plenty of power. I guess in a truck you just need more power.
Drive them both and see how you feel. They had more 4 cyl's on the lot than V6's, so they must sell plenty of them.
#22 of 71 New Escape Limited 4WD making a "squeak" noise
by eyespy9
Jan 22, 2010 (1:40 pm)
I purchased a 2010 Ford Escape Limited 4WD 3.0L V6 and the car makes a squeaking noise when I hit the gas after braking. It has made this noise since I purchased the car. I have taken it to two different Ford service stations and neither is able to determine the cause of the problem. They both have different theories, but neither is conclusive. This morning, the car made a loud, high pitched squeaking noise as I backed out of my driveway. Has anyone had a similar problems?