Last post on Jul 17, 2013 at 4:02 AM
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Dodge Sprinter, Dodge Sprinter Cargo, Brakes, Van
#10 of 19 Re: Sprinter Brake pedal falls away or soft [sprinterguru]
Nov 03, 2009 (3:21 pm)
Thanx again for your reply. Will try the air blower test tomorrow. Otherwise nothing to add. Another mechanic friend of mine (ASE Master Tech) has the same vehicle in his shop about 25 miles away....and it is doing exactly the same thing!!! Something is a bit weird here.....Does Daimler admit to this happening with any other vehicles? It stretched credulity to believe that our three vehicles are the only ones with this problem!!! Awaiting your reply....Ken
P.S. Am having a problem with "high idle" function. Switch seems to have power to it (background light comes on) but no high idle. We observed a very light "thud" noise when turning the switch off after unsucessfully going into high idle....but now we don't hear anything when we turn it off. In trying to trace this "high idle" problem, AllData refers to a "Fuse Block 3" where fuse is located for this operation...But nowhere does it twell us where the heck "Fuse Block 3" is located!! Any help you can offer? Thanx again...Ken
#11 of 19 Re: Sprinter Brake pedal falls away or soft [sprinterfan99]
Nov 04, 2009 (4:51 am)
Not sure the bleeder thing is our issue, One of mine had some trash on the seat of the bleeder causing a slight leak. After cleaning the air leak went away but our main problem did not change. Daimler is going to send a rep to my shop to get to the bottom of this issue.
The Sprinter manual says fuse block 2 & 3 are under the seat. Fuse block 1 is under the steering column. We do not have this feature on our units, sorry I cant be more help. The high idle connector pinouts are as follows:
Cavity 1 = gy/dg/rd Lamp driver
Cavity 3 = br/wt High idle on signal
Cavity 4 = br/wt High idle on signal
Cavity 7 = br Ground
Cavity 9 = bk/rd Fused optional equipment relay output
Hope this helps,
#12 of 19 Re: Sprinter Brake pedal falls away or soft [sprinterguru]
Nov 04, 2009 (5:06 am)
More on the high idle switch:
check the fuse 12 - 15 amp at fuse block 3
Check optional equip. fuse at battery dist. block hanging off the pos. post. should be fuse 2
send me a fax number and I will fax you a wiring diagram for it.
Things in this circuit:
1. Optional equipment relay
2. Fuse block 3
4. Daytime running lamps relay
5. High idle switch
#13 of 19 Re: Sprinter Brake pedal falls away or soft [sprinterfan99]
Nov 05, 2009 (8:08 am)
I found my brake problem on this unit. The rear brake pads were worn at an angle. It seems the vendor that did the rear brakes for us a month or so ago left the springs off the outside of the calipers. The calipers were caulking sideways when applied and wearing the pads crooked. We noticed the springs missing when we did a PM on this truck and it seems the problem started shortly after the springs were reinstalled. I am assuming the pads after being worn crooked would caulk a little in the caliper when the brakes were applied and caused soft braking and a pedal that would continue to fall as the pad was continuously caulked sideways under increasing pressure. Check all your brake pads and caliper springs. New pads fixed the soft falling pedal problem.
#14 of 19 Re: Sprinter Brake pedal falls away or soft [sprinterfan99]
Nov 06, 2009 (12:36 pm)
Did you find your brake issue?
#15 of 19 Re: Sprinter Brake pedal falls away or soft [sprinterguru]
Nov 09, 2009 (5:10 am)
Any luck with your brake problem?
#16 of 19 Antenna for after market radios
Apr 10, 2010 (8:01 am)
Does the sprinter whip antenna work properly on American aftermarket radios.
I know it is a powered antenna.
#17 of 19 badsprinter brakes
Jul 16, 2013 (1:33 pm)
Hi Guys, Im 87 years opld, a master mechanic, federal aitcraft/engine mech, thers nothing I dont know about brakes. I have a great west motor home diesel Freighliner turbo sprinter. Vehicle was at Freighliner dealer for two months, they replaced booster with master cylinder, rotors, ABS module,$2800,vacuum pipe to pump, power bleed system, all accomplised with factory rep, final result, they could not cure it, reinstalled all my old parts and said get it the hell out of here, (NO CHARGE). Since then I have replace master cyl several times, I n an effort to cure I disconnected the ABS, lots af plumbing, attached 2 front brake lines direct to rear port on master cylinder, two rear to front port, made a small resorior to keep abs filled with fluid. Made plugs to seal brake ports on abs. WELL same old crap pedal goes to floor, Im going to make one more test and connect all 4 wheels direct to rear port on master??????? THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT THE MASTER CYLINER IS MANUFACTURTED DEFECTIVE, YET BOSCH WILL NOT ADMIT, i HOPE SOMEONE WILL START A CLASS ACTION SUITE AGAINST THIS. IF YOU THINK YOU KNOW MORE THAT i DO PLEASE ADVISE. i HAVE AN $80,000 MOTOR HOME THAT iM AFRID TO DRIVE, SO FAR iVE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, 24,000 MILES AND i HOLD MY BREATH EVERY TIME i GO DOWN A HILL, RESPECTFULLY YOURS,,,BIG JOHN
#18 of 19 Re: badsprinter brakes [bigjay3]
Jul 16, 2013 (4:43 pm)
Big Jay, My sprinter has been doing it since 26,000 miles i now have 160,000.
IT NEVER WAS FIXEd AFETR MANY ATTEMPTS.
Mine is heat related as it only happens in the summer when temps get above 75 or so. It almost killed me once as the ABS was not working and my brakes locked up on a wet road THANK GOD there was a median i could steer off into.
If the president at FREIGHTLINER HAD ANY BALLS he would contact me. I think i will go on an internet attack and tell the truth.There is an old saying." The truth Hurts."
#19 of 19 Re: badsprinter brakes [bigjay3]
Jul 17, 2013 (4:02 am)
Have you ever lost one of the brake springs on the rear calipers, found it missing and then replaced it without replacing the brake pads? I had one with a brake fade issue where the pedal would go to the floor. Ended up being tapered brake pads. The outer spring that keeps the caliper centered was lost on road and discovered missing while performing a PM inspection. We replaced the spring without replacing the pads as they were more than 75%. With the new spring installed again this held the caliper back in the proper position which now created a slight gap between the rotor and pad on one edge of the pad. When the brakes were applied now one edge of the pad would hit the rotor first and then due to the tapper in the pad the caliper would twist a bit before the other side of the pad would hit the rotor. This slight gap at the pad and rotor translated into almost a full stroke of the brake pedal in the cab. Driving with the spring missing created a scenario where the caliper would twist a bit when the brakes were applied which in turn wore the brake pads in such a manner that a slight tapper was created on the pads themselves. Replaced the pads with new and the pedal fade issue went away. Hope this helps. Roy