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Re: Modifying my lights [mgarvie] by erickpl
Oct 05, 2009 (8:50 am)
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Replying to: mgarvie (Oct 02, 2009 1:19 pm)

Generally you're okay onroad if you keep the covers on the windshield lights. It has the benefit of protecting from road debris too.
 
To do this:
1. Pull the fog relay, bend this pin.
2. Replace relay.
 

 
IPF isn't cheap but it IS a nice setup. I got mine as mentioned before from Dirk at DPGoffroad.com and the price with the housing and bulbs really wasn't too bad at all. What's good night illumination worth to you? To me, it is about safety.
 
I've occasionally hit my high beams with my fogs, my front driving lights, AND my windshield lights. There is NO mistaking I'm on the way!
 

 
-Paul
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Oops by erickpl
Oct 05, 2009 (8:50 am)
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Tried to shrink the image... messed up. Can a mod delete 2 of those posts and fix the bottom image so it isn't too wide?
 
-Paul
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Re: Oops [erickpl] by steve_ HOST
Oct 05, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Oct 05, 2009 8:50 am)

We can't edit your posts (but got the other two). Looks like you figured it out anyway.
 
Your first pic isn't showing up for me though - looks like a registration issue.
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Re: Modifying my lights [mgarvie] by mgarvie
Oct 05, 2009 (10:04 am)
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Replying to: mgarvie (Oct 02, 2009 3:52 am)

I did get the fog lights to come on anytime. Pulled out the relay and jumped the number 3 and 4 slots with a wire. Also ordered the new replacement lenses and bulbs to try before I get the driving lights. Now I was thinking of finding a way to keep the low beams on when I hit the high beams. Think this will burn a fuse or fry a wire over an extended time?
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Re: Modifying my lights [mgarvie] by mac24
Oct 06, 2009 (3:25 am)
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Replying to: mgarvie (Oct 05, 2009 10:04 am)

Now I was thinking of finding a way to keep the low beams on when I hit the high beams. Think this will burn a fuse or fry a wire over an extended time?
 
Yes.
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Re: Modifying my lights [mgarvie] by erickpl
Oct 06, 2009 (7:15 am)
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Replying to: mgarvie (Oct 05, 2009 10:04 am)

The lamp design of the TJ prevents low and high at the same time. They are not different bulbs.
 
I think you'll find the new lights with H4 bulbs a great improvement. There is also a shield you can remove on the fog lights, but it actually does more harm than good.
 
Personally, if you REALLY need side lighting, I'd swap the OEM fogs for a good set of Hella's or KC's that have a specific wide/low pattern to handle that duty. With that, you'll get great coverage. With windshield lights, I'm finding that it does block a bit of my vision a bit in traffic and depending on the model of housing, you may get a ring around them at night that YOU can see as the driver, which actually hampers your vision.
 
if you decide you want to ditch the OEM fogs, let me know. I could put them to use for a project.
 
-Paul
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Re: Modifying my lights [erickpl] by mac24
Oct 07, 2009 (7:21 am)
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Replying to: erickpl (Oct 06, 2009 7:15 am)

The lamp design of the TJ prevents low and high at the same time. They are not different bulbs.
 
In the OE sealed beam unit the high and low beams use separate filaments with a common ground.
Using a relay it wouldn't be hard to arrange for power to arrive at both high and low together when the high beam was selected.........just not a good idea.
 
In regard to lighting in general, if you need long range illumination it's because you're going fast enough to require seeing that far ahead, and even if excellent close range side lighting has been added it will only aid peripheral vision, so you may see the leaping deer a little better just before you hit it, but you will have been going too fast to avoid it anyway.
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Re: Modifying my lights [mac24] by erickpl
Oct 08, 2009 (6:09 am)
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Replying to: mac24 (Oct 07, 2009 7:21 am)

Didn't know that about the lights, mac. Thanks!
 
I agree with what you're saying there.
 
I have decided to make some configuration changes on my lighting. My OEM fogs are coming off. I'm moving my Hella 500's (fog pattern) from the windshield to the bumper. Their light glare makes them unusable at night for me, but turned down/out a bit, they'll be ideal for fog, even only being 55W.
 
I'm going to go IPF for my new lighting. I'm getting some 968's with stone/glare guards for the windshield. They are a driving pattern and can run up to 110W bulbs (which they come with). I'm putting a second set on my light hoop over my winch once I get that remounted and reinforced. They'll be set up tight enough to not move when driving, but I'll be able to move them to aim them up a bit for when I'm on the darker trails. Since I can see them from the driver's seat, they may have stone guards too. I'll just have to see how they go once mounted.
 
I'll be posting a writeup with my current setup so you'll be able to see the differences.
 
They come with their own wiring harness, but I'm going to verify the harness can handle the 110W lighting I plan on using.
 
-Paul

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