Last post on Oct 13, 2009 at 11:12 AM
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Subaru Impreza, Honda Fit, Subaru, Car Buying, Car Comparisons, Hatchback, Wagon
#3 of 17 Re: Need 2 new cars - please help [overhear]
Sep 24, 2009 (6:15 am)
You may not care for the 2010 Outback styling, but it's a better car in just about every way over the model it replaces. It's actually about an inch shorter than the model it replaces, yet is soooo much more roomier inside. Plus the new CVT transmission is great, in that it is both more economical and transfers power more efficiently (it's quicker than the old model) than the old conventional automatic. In fact, the new CVT-equipped Outback is rated better than the smaller/lighter Impreza and Forester in terms of gas mileage!
You and your husband sound like practical people. That being the case I would say go for the following, and in this order:
1) 2010 Outback (or '09, if you can find oneóbut again, the '10 model is a better choice)
2) Forester (wife drives a '01 Forester S-Premium)
3) Impreza 5-door (I drive an '09 WRX)
4) Honda fit
#4 of 17 Re: Need 2 new cars - please help [overhear]
Sep 24, 2009 (7:03 am)
Think long-term, you want 2 cars that perform different tasks.
Get one small city car, one bigger family car for road trips and more comfort. Not to mention an all-weather vehicle.
With that in mind, I think a Fit+Forester team would be perfect.
Fit is a great little city car. Let that be your hubby's primary car, a manual transmission Sport model ought to run in the high teens, so it's very affordable. Yes it's small for crash protection, but at slower city speeds you should be fine.
Out on the highway you can take your family/road trip car, a Forester 2.5X with the premium package, also available with a manual transmission (rare in this class). It aces crash tests and is a bit more substantial.
Think the Forester is too big?
It's shorter than a Chevy Cobalt coupe!
It is not big, not by a long shot. Tell your hubby he's nuts.
An Outback with a 6 speed manual would be nice, but it's further from your ideal - bigger, heavier, more expensive. Plus it's not as nimble, so it feels even bigger in person vs. on paper compared to the Forester.
Any smaller than a Forester (for your bigger of the 2 vehicles) and I think you'll regret it. Even with just one child, he or she will want to bring a friend along later, plus all your gear.
What else can you get with a manual trans? Not much. Mazda5, but you don't need 6 seats, plus they don't offer AWD in the US models. Suzuki Grand Vitara may also come in a manual, IIRC, but it's less car-like than the Forester.
Otherwise you could go smaller - but for AWD I think the SX4 is the only choice, and it's just too close in size to the Fit, they overlap too much.
Buy cars that meet different needs, I think you'll be happier.
#5 of 17 Re: Need 2 new cars - please help [ateixeira]
Sep 24, 2009 (7:34 pm)
I know that the Forester just looks big, and I am wondering whether it's just the cosmetics that bother me, or how I perceive it drives.
Given that and everyone's suggestions I'm going to go test drive the Forester again this weekend and try to be more open-minded.
I also think the manual Fit would be great for my husband altho he's considering waiting for the new diesel rabbit (or is that the golf???).
#6 of 17 Re: Need 2 new cars - please help [overhear]
Sep 25, 2009 (8:43 am)
Make sure you do U-turns to sample the tight turning radius - for its class.
No way can it match the diminuitive Fit in this regard, but it does have best-in-class turning radius, per Consumer Reports.
Diesel sounds good. Audi just showed a new A4 2.0 TDIe that gets 51mpg. It was a sedan, though, and meant for the European market. Wonder if they'll bring it here and sell an Avant version. That would be pretty cool.
You could also do Fit + A4 Avant 2.0 TDIe Quattro.
#7 of 17 Re: Need 2 new cars - please help
Sep 25, 2009 (8:52 am)
I must say, I won't miss my Saturn SL1's steering radius. There is just nothing subtle about executing a 3-point u-turn in heavy traffic.
#8 of 17 Re: Need 2 new cars - please help [overhear]
Sep 25, 2009 (9:23 am)
Funny thing is our 1998 Forester was not good. Our 2009's is much tighter despite a longer wheelbase, so that was a nice surprise.
Thing is, you use that all the time, parking, U-turns, etc.
Sep 26, 2009 (1:02 am)
I think the Fit is a great idea. They are fun to drive and are like Doctor Who's Tardis - carry an extraordinary amount of stuff and seat folding is very clever.
If you are at the soccer mum stage, it might be worth having a look at one or two of the smaller SUV which have seen seats.Whilst some of them are bulky, they are frequently shorter, although wider and higher than station wagons. That makes manoevering them easier. The Forester is a little unusual in that it actually looks bulkier than it is. A very nice drive and quite appealing
#10 of 17 Jetta vs. Forester?
Sep 28, 2009 (11:02 am)
Well, I took the Forester out for another spin and I really did like the way it drove.
Now I'm getting prices. So far I've just heard from one dealer -- $21,700 for the base model in automatic and $24,322 for the premium. Ideally I'd also like the all-weather package.
One last thought: Does anyone have thoughts on how the VW Jetta compares to the Forester? Apart from still not caring for the Forester's looks, I'm a little concerned about its reliability rating in Consumer Reports (just "good").
Thanks again for any thoughts...
#11 of 17 Re: Jetta vs. Forester? [overhear]
Sep 28, 2009 (11:47 am)
Jetta SportWagen: Very good handling, but a small wagon vs. SUV and FWD vs. AWD. Much different kind of vehicle than the Forester.
#12 of 17 Re: Jetta vs. Forester? [backy]
Sep 28, 2009 (12:46 pm)
I am surprised to hear that you shied away from the Forester due to size! I suppose it is a matter of perspective, but I find my new Forester to be quite compact. The seating position can be upright and "commanding," depending on how it is adjusted, but very comfortable. My other car is a Fort Escort, which sits very low to the ground and feels small, but its overall size really isn't all that much smaller than the Subaru. In terms of space, the Forester packs quite a punch. A friend of mine who has an '08 Impreza rode in my Forester for the first time today. He immediately commented on how roomy it felt. Parked next to each other, there is very little difference width/length between the two models.
As Bob stated, though, if you are not looking for a manual and fuel economy is high on the list, the Outback's CVT is a very efficient bugger.