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#2 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [wirelesslink] by mcdawgg Sep 21, 2009 (9:40 pm)
Replying to: wirelesslink (Sep 21, 2009 9:34 pm) Mobil 1 0W-20 at Walmart = $6.27 per quart. The Toyota 0W-20 is made by another company (maybe Mobil?). Mobil 1 is a great oil that meets all the specs, so just use this. I do my own oil changes, so I don't know what a dealer would charge, but I would buy the Mobil 1 and bring it to the dealer to use if I was gong to have the dealer change my oil. Replies to this message: wirelesslink (Sep 21, 2009 9:53 pm) mcdawgg (Sep 22, 2009 3:32 am)
#3 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [mcdawgg] by wirelesslink Sep 21, 2009 (9:53 pm)
Replying to: mcdawgg (Sep 21, 2009 9:40 pm) The reason I want to use the Toyota 0W-20 is that I heard that Toyota had a custom additive package specified for their 0W-20. Not sure if it will make a difference or not in the long-term, but the Toyota full-synthetic is what is used for factory fill. I would think the dealers could at least be somewhat reasonable in price as Toyota has the market cornered on their brand of oil. Replies to this message: mcdawgg (Sep 22, 2009 3:32 am)
#4 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [wirelesslink] by mcdawgg Sep 22, 2009 (3:32 am)
Replying to: wirelesslink (Sep 21, 2009 9:53 pm) I highly doubt they have a "custom additive package ". Where did you here that? I bet the additive package is the huge price additive!! Toyota corp. charges the dealers a huge mark-up on their parts, so I doubt you will get much better price if you insist on the Toyota brand oil.   I'm really anal about my cars, keep them 10+ years, etc. I use almost all Toyota OEM parts, one exception being oil, because I cannot find any proof that it is better or different than a really good off-the-shelf oil. Mobil 1 is fully synthetic and is highly regarded, and meets the Toyota specs.
#5 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? by mlp1965 Dec 06, 2009 (8:32 am)
I'm new to this website and forum, so if I'm bringing up something that has already been discussed eleswhere, sorry.   Nevermind the $9.50 vs $11 vs $12+/qt, I can't get past the fact that they don't recommend regular old conventional 5W30 for this economy car. When I bought my 2010 LE in Aug. I never had any idea that, yes I was buying an inexpensive economy car that has a long and good track record, but one needs to spend $10-$20 "extra" at every oil change.   Does using 5W30 void the warranty? Really cause longevity or other problems?   This is my 4th vehicle. My 1st 3 vehicles got 160k ('89 Acura Integra), 190k (93 Nissan V6 pickup), 260k (2000 Volvo S80 T6), and none of them ever had engine problems using "regular" oil. Actually for the Volvo I mostly used a synthetic blend for the 1st 150-200k, but that's a 270hp turbo.   I thought I bought the Corolla for its dependabilty and economy.   Can you really bring your own oil (like Mobile 1) to the dealership and expect them to use it? Replies to this message: terceltom (Dec 06, 2009 12:13 pm) mlp1965 (Dec 06, 2009 1:24 pm) terceltom (Dec 06, 2009 4:11 pm) and 2 more... mcdawgg (Dec 06, 2009 5:00 pm)
#6 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [mlp1965] by terceltom Dec 06, 2009 (12:13 pm)
Replying to: mlp1965 (Dec 06, 2009 8:32 am) When comparing cost you have to take in consideration the extended interval between oil changes that you gain with the synthetic oil versus the dino oil. Replies to this message: mlp1965 (Dec 06, 2009 1:24 pm) terceltom (Dec 06, 2009 4:11 pm) mlp1965 (Dec 07, 2009 4:26 am) and 1 more...
#7 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [terceltom] by mlp1965 Dec 06, 2009 (1:24 pm)
Replying to: terceltom (Dec 06, 2009 12:13 pm) So the question is,   Will I get so many more miles between oil changes by using the syth oil that it pays for itself?   I'm guessing it doesn't even come close. Replies to this message: terceltom (Dec 06, 2009 4:11 pm) mlp1965 (Dec 07, 2009 4:26 am) terceltom (Dec 07, 2009 7:45 am)
#8 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [mlp1965] by terceltom Dec 06, 2009 (4:11 pm)
Replying to: mlp1965 (Dec 06, 2009 1:24 pm) Well if you want to believe GM's new recommendations to their new car owners that those that use synthetic can go at least 10,000 miles between oil changes and most can go even longer (closer to 16,000 miles). What's that, a 4 to 1 ratio instead of changing dino oil every 3000 miles? What about that synthetic is less prone to thermal breakdown or has better cling and better pour levels. How about that syntetic is less prone to varishing and coking then dino oil. How about the more basic reason that synthetic is just plain better at engine lubrcation and gas saving. What's all the above worth to you or your engine? Ya think Toyota just made the move to synthetic just to p*ss you off or to waste your money? No, they did it for a reason, to keep up that excellant reliability record that you spoke of in an earlier posting. Go ahead, keep using the $1.50 a quart dino oil, I'll take the $8.50 a quart 0-20 synthetic anyday! Replies to this message: mlp1965 (Dec 07, 2009 4:26 am) terceltom (Dec 07, 2009 7:45 am)
#9 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [mlp1965] by mcdawgg Dec 06, 2009 (5:00 pm)
Replying to: mlp1965 (Dec 06, 2009 8:32 am) Just go to WalMart and buy the Mobil 1 0W20 oil for $6.27 per quart. Yes, you can bring this to your dealer and they will only charge you for the labor and filter.
#10 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [terceltom] by mlp1965 Dec 07, 2009 (4:26 am)
Replying to: terceltom (Dec 06, 2009 4:11 pm) I don't think they would be trying to p*ss me off or waste my money, just make more money for themselves using the reasoning that it is better for me - in the long run, which it may actually be.   Just trying to get to the bottom of this to figure out what is best for me.   Toyota recommends an oil change every 5k miles - with the 0w20. That's a 1.6:1 ratio if one considers 3k the "normal" interval.   ...less thermal breakdown - effectively saying it can go further between changes.   ...better cling - same as above?   ...varnishing and coke - same as above? And longevity of engine.   ...better pour levels? Could only guess what that means without looking it up.   ...just plain betterr...? No sh*t, but good enough is good enough.   Again, I'm trying to figure out if there is any real meaningful tangible reason for me to use this oil. I would like it to be a little more that that warm fuzzy feeling that my engine loves me because I put more slippery oil in it.   Better gas mileage longer engine life more time between oil changes   these are real and if they come close to offsetting the cost, it is worth it to me, especially more time between changes; but I still am skeptical. At least while it is still under warranty I'll follow their recommendations - their special oil changed every 5k. Maybe I'll stretch it incrementally up to 10k starting around 50k. Replies to this message: terceltom (Dec 07, 2009 7:45 am)
#11 of 11 Re: Toyota 0W-20 - $9.50/quart? - What did you pay? [mlp1965] by terceltom Dec 07, 2009 (7:45 am)
Replying to: mlp1965 (Dec 07, 2009 4:26 am) Since you seem to have purchased a Corolla for the pure economics and reliability of it all, wouldn't what's better for your car also "better for you"?

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