Last post on Nov 02, 2009 at 2:10 PM
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#40 of 45 Re: While cars have definitely gotten safer over the years... [andre1969]
Oct 22, 2009 (3:07 pm)
You beat me to it.
While the Crown Vic is a "modern car" with air bags and such it is still BOF and a platform that has been in existence since 1979.
Not exactly modern compared to a car designed this millennium..
#41 of 45 Re: While cars have definitely gotten safer over the years... [british_rover]
Oct 22, 2009 (3:49 pm)
Oddly though, the Panther platform does rather well in crash testing, according to IIHS tests. Even though it's body-on-frame, they still designed it to crumple up more or less like a unit body car. Or so, that test gave me the impression.
But, I guess a '65 T-bird is a harder hit than a deformable IIHS barrier. And running a car at 40 mph into a deformable barrier is a whole 'nother ballgame than running two ~3600 lb Chevies into each other at 40 mph. Or a ~4500 lb T-bird into a ~4200 lb Crown Vic that's in hot pursuit.
And wow, no wonder those things were pigs! At ~205" long on a 113.2" wb, they're really not that big...in range of my 2000 Intrepid...and some 70's compacts, for that matter! Yet 4500 lb is about what the Cadillacs started at in 1965. I guess compact dimensions and luxury-mastodon weight don't exactly add up to sports-car handling! I wonder if those suckers were hard on tires, too?
#42 of 45 Re: While cars have definitely gotten safer over the years... [andre1969]
Oct 23, 2009 (1:38 pm)
Big question - was the lady in the Thunderbird wearing safety belts?
Our local paper notes whether accident victims were wearing safety belts, and more often than not, people killed in accidents were not. People around here aren't getting killed in cars from the 1960s (or even the 1970s and 1980s). Most of those cars are either junkyard material or trailer queens.
Even newer cars don't provide much protection in high-speed collisions if the occupants aren't wearing their belts.
#43 of 45 Re: While cars have definitely gotten safer over the years... [andre1969]
Oct 23, 2009 (4:51 pm)
Ouch Andre, must we see beautiful classics all bashed up - it hurts!
#44 of 45 Re: While cars have definitely gotten safer over the years... [berri]
Nov 02, 2009 (7:47 am)
Even if the T-Bird driver had belts on, in a '65 they would have been lap belts only.
While those are a lot better than nothing, they're not going to restrain you as well as shoulder belts.
#45 of 45 Re: While cars have definitely gotten safer over the years... [lokki]
by MrShift@Edmunds HOST
Nov 02, 2009 (2:10 pm)
So true. With lap belts you can be driven right under the dashboard and get crushed between the firewall and the seat. This is also possible with shoulder belts, but less likely (you aren't moving as much) and much less likely with an air bag.
Ever see those police pursuit videos? It's amazing what people live through in those crashes.