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#15 of 34 2009 Borrego instead of 4Runner
Jan 04, 2010 (7:36 pm)
I have had my 2009 Borrego for a week. EX, V8, power everthing, leather, no nav, no chrome, sunroof, heated seats, Bluetooth, no back up camera, no rear entertainment. Searched in vain locally and had to buy through a broker from dealer in Ohio. Delivered to my door on large vehicle transport truck. When it was off loaded, it would not start and would not jump start. Had to call Kia for free towing to dealer who replaced battery. Drop down sunglass holder defective and needs to be replaced too. Otherwise, I am very pleased. Paid $31,640 plus $760 transport. Every bit as good and in some ways better than 2010 4Runner (no V8).
My random thoughts:
Too soon to figure gas mileage but prob about as listed.
Good sound, esp via Sirius/XM.
Bluetooth working well; others say sound is good, just a little echo-y.
Rear view mirror buttons can be programmed for garage door and 2 other remotes-nice.
Presets for steering wheel, outdoor mirrors and seat works well.
Comfy front seats, heated too. At 6ft 3in I could use a touch more leg room even with seat way back.
Center console prohibits your right knee from relaxing to the right.
Generally quiet with road noise and other cars.
Fog lights are nice.
Multiple jacks for rechargers, i-pod, etc.
Slow to gear up from a full stop (saves gas?), but does not lack power when you floor it.
3rd row seats should be an option. Rear cargo with minimal room back there unless the seats are down flat. Should have fabric on their backs because they will probably scratch with luggage.
Small storage space on floor of rear is nice. Has some of jack parts.
Can access fuel tank from the side of rear wall. Jack inside opposite rear wall.
Adjustable mid seats for position and reclining are nice. Same for drop down arm rest between the seats. Enough leg room.
Back up warning beeps are helpful but only in general distances.
Automatic 2 wheel to 4 wheel drive is nice and smooth changeover.
Running boards - I dislike, but are not removable. Seem narrower and I can step over them without always rubbing pantleg on them.
So, time will tell whether it will hold up. Service manager at Kia said Kias since mid 2006 have been very reliable and much better than the Jeep/Chrysler vehicles when he worked there. He sees hardly any Borregos, but then they did not sell a lot of them.
Posted on Kia board too.
#16 of 34 2009 Borrego over 4Runner/Pathfinder
Jan 05, 2010 (5:47 am)
The last car I had was a 99 4Runner SR5 before I traded it in for a new Borrego. I shopped around for a month and I never could find a deal that was close to what the Borrego offered for the price. Heck, the new 4Runner SR5 was out the door $32k and some change (and that's with little options). So needless to say, never thought I would say this...I am an owner of a KIA. And the car is awesome. The ride is smooth, lots of room, power. I have read some reviews that stated lots of noise when going over rough roads and that does remain true but its not all too bad. That being said, it is sad that they aren't bringing them back to the US next year. It is an amazing SUV. Here is how my experience went.
New 2009 EX Limited 4x2 V8 out the door after $2500 trade = $24488
It is the typical limited package that includes everything except the DVD player. Nav, chrome, you name it, it has it. I just can't believe that the dealer worked such a deal out. He will be earning my business again in 3 - 5 months because we will be buying the new Sorento for my wife. Never again will I say I got a $39,000 for $24,488.
#17 of 34 2009 Borrego EX 4dr SUV 4WD (3.8L 6cyl 5A) Gresham, OR
Jan 08, 2010 (10:34 am)
I'll keep it nice and simple:
Copperhead paint scheme, luxury package, 17" chrome wheels, bluetooth and crossbars. Bought it in mid Nov '09, paid $27,772...seems to be the national average these days. The dealers first offer was 28,900+.
We all know you can find waaaaaaaaay better wheels, but i didn't plan on getting any ever, so i just stuck with the ones that were already there, makes it look just a bit better. Bluetooth seemed cheesy at first, but new laws in OR make it necessary, so turned out to be nice. I still get a lot of crap at work for owning a KIA, especially since Borrego translates to "yearling lamb" or "sheep", but that sure beats getting into a $40,000 "big name" SUV that has the same features.
#18 of 34 Re: 2009 Borrego over 4Runner/Pathfinder [gamecockbrad]
Jan 08, 2010 (11:44 am)
Could you give more info on your purchase. I have a quote on a 2009 EX V6 sticker is $30,390 my quote is under $23,000. Your deal seems incredible. I would rather have the V8. You say out the door (tax, tag, dealer fees,) for $24,488. Where did you get this deal.
#19 of 34 Re: 2009 Borrego over 4Runner/Pathfinder [pk45]
Jan 08, 2010 (3:43 pm)
He has a trade involved to complicate the issue.
Sounds like you have a good deal for an EX less than 23K. Are the rebates still in place and does your price include rebates/incentives/trade ect.
I paid, for a base 4X4 with floor mats, LX for 22.5K after 4.5K rebates. l Guess I got ripped...dang!! The price sites showed me about 900 bucks lower than average.
Oh, to complicate my deal I traded a 2005 town and country with 125K miles and getting worn for 5K. Price before tax was 17.5K. Tax will be paid by uncle sam when I do my taxes.
#20 of 34 2009 Borrego EX V6 Loaded
Jan 08, 2010 (4:18 pm)
Sticker price was 32,000$, traded a 99 honda crv (145,000 miles so-so condition) walked out the door for 20,135$. I dont know why all of you want a V8, the only difference is for towing, really the gearing is better in the V6 and has better pickup. Almost identical gas mileage. Have had know for almost a year, only problems have been, a bad tire (which they replaced), the rear mirror was loose.
We have been really happy with the purchase have used it on a 6 hour trip, the ride was very comfortable. Overall the borrego EX V6 has been roomy, sporty, and easy to drive. We have not experienced any major problems at this time and still love the dark blue kia we now own.
#21 of 34 Re: 2009 Borrego EX V6 Loaded [disturbed1160]
Jan 08, 2010 (6:46 pm)
So, what do you think they gave you for the CRV maybe 2 or 3K. Sounds like a heck of a deal..wish I could have gotten an EX for that kind of money.
Trade in's always fog up the deal but it seems like you got yours for 22K or 23K. I think I paid 22.5K and then got 5K for my van..if the van was worth more then I paid more but I really think 5K for a 125k mile 2005 van was a reasonable trade in price and I doubt they would get any more than that at auction (unless someone wanted to turn back the odometer..).
#22 of 34 Re: 2009 Borrego EX V6 Loaded [disturbed1160]
Jan 14, 2010 (10:48 am)
Congratulations!! Both you got an awesome deal.
I've been just offered 25,600$ OTD including tax and fees for EX V6 w/ no option which has around 29,300$ price tag from dealer at LA last week. The price was [INVOICE - 3,000 customer cashback - 1,500 competitive bonus - some dealer incentive + tax and fees].
I think that is not a decent deal, much above yours. Please let me know where did you get it? envkwongmail.com
#23 of 34 Re: 2009 Borrego EX V6 Loaded [alswo]
Jan 14, 2010 (4:05 pm)
The other dealer I called was at 24.7K for an EX +tax and was about 23.6K on an LX like what I got for 22.5K. For me, I'm in the indianapolis area
#24 of 34 Re: 2009 Borrego EX V6 Loaded [kb9nvh]
Jan 26, 2010 (9:07 pm)
Got an 09 Borrego LX with leather, DVD, backup camera, bluetooth for $25600 out the door. Great experience at the dealership in Cincinnati - felt right at home. Liking my deal, but wondering if I could've done better? Wanted the premium package but too expensive for my tastes... any comments are appreciated, thanks!