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Re: Blame the carmaker for our stupidity/ignorance ! Sheesh! [gagrice] by rsholland
Nov 06, 2009 (5:11 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 1:55 pm)

Subaru now uses two little pegs near the front of the driver's seat that lock the floor mat in place, and keeps it from sliding forward. It's a really easy solution to this problem.
 
Bob
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Re: Blame the carmaker for our stupidity/ignorance ! Sheesh! [rsholland] by ateixeira
Nov 06, 2009 (8:49 am)
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Replying to: rsholland (Nov 06, 2009 5:11 am)

Toyota and Lexus do as well. In this case the wrong mat was used, it was a mat from an RX SUV in an ES sedan (dealer screwed up).
 
If they didn't bother finding the right mat, I doubt they even looked for those anchors.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [ssimm] by explorerx4
Nov 06, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: ssimm (Nov 05, 2009 4:52 pm)

i thought maybe it had something to do with 'heel and toe' to mollify some car magazines, but now i doubt that.
here is an edmunds link to the technique:
the prose describes driving a passat but pictures are from a focus
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It was bound to happen by gagrice
Nov 07, 2009 (2:03 pm)
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Class-action suit filed for Toyota owners
 
Saturday, November 7, 2009 at 2:31 a.m.
 
A Southern California law firm has filed a class-action lawsuit on behalf of Toyota and Lexus owners who say their vehicles were involved in incidents of sudden acceleration.
 
The Redlands-based firm of McCuneWrightsaid it filed the suit Thursday in the name of two Los Angeles County residents who have experienced multiple cases of unintended speeding.
 
“For years, Toyota Motor Corp. has dismissed complaints of sudden acceleration as being the driver’s fault,” attorney David Wright said in a statement. “But neither driver error nor floor mats can explain away many other frightening instances of runaway Toyotas. Until the company acknowledges the real problem and fixes it, we worry that other preventable injuries and deaths will occur.”
 
Toyota is advising owners to remove all driver-side mats from certain Toyota and Lexus models and is preparing for a recall, once the automaker and federal officials determine the underlying defects that may be behind the incidents.

 
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/nov/07/class-action-suit-filed-for-toyot- a-owners/
 
November 6, 2009 4:49 PM EST
 
REDLANDS, Calif., Nov. 6 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The law firm of McCuneWright, LLP, filed a national class action lawsuit yesterday against Toyota Motor Corporation on behalf of Toyota and Lexus owners who have experienced incidents of sudden unintended acceleration.
 
Los Angeles County residents Seong Bae Choi, the owner of a 2004 Camry and Chris Chan Park, who owns a 2008 FJ Cruiser, will represent the class. Both have experienced multiple instances of sudden unintended acceleration in their respective vehicles, Choi and Park are also among the thousands of Toyota and Lexus owners who have experienced incidents of sudden unintended acceleration while driving their vehicles, and among the millions who are potentially affected by this dangerous defect.
 
This, however, is not the only fatal crash resulting from sudden unintended acceleration in Toyota and Lexus models. Sean Kane, president of Safety Research & Strategies, Inc., has reported at least 16 fatalities and 243 injuries in crashes involving Toyotas that have been attributed to sudden unintended acceleration. In total, there have been more than 2,000 complaints of sudden unintended acceleration in these vehicles, culled from litigation and consumer-reported complaints to the automaker and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

 
http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Releases/Class+Action+Lawsuit+Filed+Against+T- oyota+to+Correct+Sudden+Acceleration/5085310.html
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Re: It was bound to happen [gagrice] by 210delray
Nov 07, 2009 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 07, 2009 2:03 pm)

2004 Camry, eh? Well, mine's been fine for 67K miles, and our 2005 has been as well at 41K+ miles. I'm not worried, and our floormats are secure.
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Re: It was bound to happen [210delray] by gagrice
Nov 07, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: 210delray (Nov 07, 2009 4:14 pm)

I was kind of curious about the vehicles in the case also. I did not know that the FJ Cruiser had any runaway accidents or UIA complaints.
Some here did not believe me when I predicted this would bring them out of the woodwork. Maybe I can throw my skipping CD player into the Class action suit.
 
Probably not as the New NAV arrived from India yesterday, and will be installed Monday.
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Well...well...well.... by iluvmysephia1
Nov 07, 2009 (6:23 pm)
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this whole thing is getting scarier and scarier...for Toyota.
 
This, however, is not the only fatal crash resulting from sudden unintended acceleration in Toyota and Lexus models. Sean Kane, president of Safety Research & Strategies, Inc., has reported at least 16 fatalities and 243 injuries in crashes involving Toyotas that have been attributed to sudden unintended acceleration. In total, there have been more than 2,000 complaints of sudden unintended acceleration in these vehicles, culled from litigation and consumer-reported complaints to the automaker and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).
 
We have mentioned some 6 crashes since 2000 invloving stuck accelerators in Toyota vehicles, or was it 9 crashes. Doesn't matter how good our memories are, now we have this lawyer-culled information that lists 16 fatalities and 243 injuries and a total of more than 2,000 complaints.
 
This still might just be accelerator pedals mushed in the "full on" position due to aggressive floor mats. To think that. When it's so easy ta let your mind wander to something else, like ECU's of some sort, huh?
 
To be more accurate as to NHTSA releases, though, we have to make sure we mention that they're taking a close look at the floor pans installed in subject vehicles as well. In their workings with the pedals and mats. Pedals and mats and pans, pedals and mats and pans...oh pedals and mats and pans. Interesting how I can turn most anything in to a blues riff.
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Re: It was bound to happen [gagrice] by deltheking
Nov 07, 2009 (6:33 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 07, 2009 4:52 pm)

You seem to have a pathological hatred for Toyota. But dont worry ,Toyota is not going anywhere.Just a minor blip on the radar. One less buyer is not going to affect Toyota.But keep it going.Waste your time,effort and resources to malign Toyota.
It was the driver`s stupidity and ignorance. Even if it was Chevy/Ford/Honda/Dodge -the same logic applies!!
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Re: It was bound to happen [gagrice] by houdini1
Nov 07, 2009 (7:58 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 07, 2009 2:03 pm)

Yep, this is why all the mass hysteria is being whipped up. Another stupid lawsuit so the lawyers have a shot at millions and the class members get a free oil change, if anything.
 
Nobody with a real injury would be dumb enough to join in something like this...but all the scammers will be first in line for that free oil change.
 
If the attorneys make any money on this you can be sure that every other car manufacturer might as well line up for their turn. Cigarettes used to cost 25 cents a pack and now I hear that they are about $5. Mostly due to lawsuits. I can't wait to plunk down $200,000. for a Yaris.
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Re: Well...well...well.... [iluvmysephia1] by 210delray
Nov 07, 2009 (8:02 pm)
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Replying to: iluvmysephia1 (Nov 07, 2009 6:23 pm)

And what are the credentials of this Sean Kane and his organization? Sounds like he works closely with trial attorneys. Now anyone can sue for almost anything, but it doesn't such cases have merit.
 
Just looked him up on his website:
 
Who We Are
 
Established in July 2004 by Sean Kane, Safety Research & Strategies, Inc., is staffed with research professionals who specialize in safety matters.
 
Mr. Kane began his work in 1991 with the Center for Auto Safety, the advocacy organization established by Ralph Nader in Washington D.C. As a co-founder of Strategic Safety, and later, as president of Safety Research & Strategies, Mr. Kane has remained at the forefront of safety issues and trends, from Electronic Stability Control to aging tires. He continues to offer unique solutions to the problems of investigating and analyzing product defects and to federal agency investigations and rulemakings
 
Mr. Kane’s work on behalf of clients and the public has prompted federal investigations, aided in the successful resolution of important litigation, and alerted the public of significant vehicle safety hazards. His investigations and analyses of defects have led to recalls of millions of vehicles and components that have inflicted serious and deadly injuries to consumers, ranging from heater core ruptures, engine fires, failed electronics, and tires.
 
Mr. Kane was instrumental in revealing the Ford Explorer/Firestone tire debacle in the U.S. His research exposed Ford’s overseas recalls to the public in July 2000 and led to three campaigns to recall the tires. In 2006, subsequent research revealed that unused Firestone spares, never replaced in the 2000 and 2001 recalls, were being put into service, only to fail quickly causing more rollover deaths and serious injuries. As a result, Firestone launched an owner re-notification program in July 2006.
 
Mr. Kane is the founder of the Vehicle Safety Information Resource Center, a company that provides researchers with the tools to locate and obtain vehicle safety data and documents from government sources, he is the editor of The Safety Record, a bi-monthly publication that covers the “inside baseball” of motor vehicle and product safety, and co-chairs the CDC-sponsored Massachusetts Prevent Injury Now! Network, a group that supports injury prevention efforts as the state level.
 
Mr. Kane is a frequent source and commentator to the broadcast and print media and his work continues to serve as the foundation for successful identification and resolution of many vehicle and product safety matters.
 
SRS research staff includes Tony Di Viesti Esq., BSME, Melanie MacDonald, Ann Boudreau, Lauri Stevenson MLS, Ellen Liberman, Felix Click MLIS, Marilyn Charest, Brad Pugh, Sharon Mitchell, and Ryan Gousie
 
SRS also maintains contractors in Detroit, Europe, Australia, and Japan.

 
Hmm, he started at the Center for Auto Safety and seems to have developed a rather large ego....Didn't know he was so "instrumental in revealing the Ford Explorer/Firestone tire debacle in the U.S."

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