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1140 messages,  Last post on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:12 PM

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Re: Blame the carmaker for our stupidity/ignorance ! Sheesh! [gagrice] by houdini1
Nov 05, 2009 (2:31 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 1:55 pm)

Looks like that BMW floor mat is dangerously close to the gas pedal...better sound the alarm !!
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [houdini1] by gagrice
Nov 05, 2009 (2:36 pm)
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Replying to: houdini1 (Nov 05, 2009 2:31 pm)

You did notice the pedal is hinged the correct way? No chance of it getting hung up like the upside down throttle on the Lexus.
 
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [gagrice] by steve_ HOST
Nov 05, 2009 (2:40 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 2:36 pm)

It could get rolled up under the brake pedal though.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [steve_] by ateixeira
Nov 05, 2009 (2:43 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Nov 05, 2009 2:40 pm)

Or it could slip and cover the gas pedal, creating a sudden loss of acceleration ability.
 
It probably is a poke at Lexus. Not very classy at that.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [gagrice] by corvette
Nov 05, 2009 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 2:36 pm)

Yeah, the fulcrum is at the bottom of the pedal. It'd take a tremendous amount of force coming from the floormat to prevent it from returning to its idle position.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [corvette] by ssimm
Nov 05, 2009 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: corvette (Nov 05, 2009 3:29 pm)

It would take a tremendous amount of force coming from the floormat to keep it from returning to its idle position. What will Toyota do after they order the recall for the floor mats and then the problem is still happening? The problem goes all the way back to 2002 when they made changes to the way the throttle operates... not just since 2006.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [ssimm] by imidazol97
Nov 05, 2009 (5:00 pm)
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Replying to: ssimm (Nov 05, 2009 4:52 pm)

>The problem goes all the way back to 2002 when they made changes to the way the throttle operates
 
That needs to be brought out with more examples.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [imidazol97] by 210delray
Nov 05, 2009 (5:25 pm)
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Replying to: imidazol97 (Nov 05, 2009 5:00 pm)

Mine don't have any problems (2004 and 2005). I still think throttle-by-wire is better than the old mechanical linkages or cables, which could bind or break.
 
I did note earlier that the bottom of my Camrys' accelerator pedals are about an inch higher above the floor than in the 2010 Camry (and presumably the 2007-09 models).
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Re: Blame the carmaker for poor design [ssimm] by ateixeira
Nov 05, 2009 (6:19 pm)
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Replying to: ssimm (Nov 05, 2009 4:52 pm)

If the problem was widespread on a 2002 model we would have been having this discussion in 2005.
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Re: Blame the carmaker for our stupidity/ignorance ! Sheesh! [gagrice] by rsholland
Nov 06, 2009 (5:11 am)
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Replying to: gagrice (Nov 05, 2009 1:55 pm)

Subaru now uses two little pegs near the front of the driver's seat that lock the floor mat in place, and keeps it from sliding forward. It's a really easy solution to this problem.
 
Bob

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