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#1201 of 1210 Re: Toyota's fall continues [210delray] by ateixeira

Dec 02, 2009 (12:56 pm)

Replying to: 210delray (Dec 02, 2009 9:47 am)
IIHS Top Safety Picks in that class:
 
SMALL SUVs
Honda Element
Jeep Patriot - with optional side torso airbags
Subaru Forester
Volkswagen Tiguan
 
You could add small wagons from that list: Soul, Cube, Impreza, Golf, A3, Outback, Jetta, Passat.
 
I guess the Outback and Passat are a big bigger.

#1202 of 1210 Passat by robr2

Dec 02, 2009 (2:57 pm)

I have a B5 Passat (2005) wagon with 60K. Amazingly, I've had basically zero problems with it outside of a couple of CEL's fixed under warranty in 4.5 years of ownership.
 
It's a great handling car, gets 25 mpg regularly and hauls plenty of lacrosse and camping gear.
 
The current B6 Passat wagon is almost impossible to find.

#1203 of 1210 Re: Passat [robr2] by steve_ HOST

Dec 02, 2009 (2:59 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 02, 2009 2:57 pm)
An old friend of mine has a Passat wagon of around that vintage, and he hasn't had any problems with his either.
 
VW's rep does make one wonder.

#1204 of 1210 Re: Passat [robr2] by nippononly

Dec 04, 2009 (3:12 pm)

Replying to: robr2 (Dec 02, 2009 2:57 pm)
The current B6 Passat wagon is almost impossible to find.
 
I thought I read that the Passat wagon had been cancelled for the remainder of the run of the current Passat, as the Jetta wagon is almost the same size?
 
As you may know, the 2011 Passat arriving next year will be a very different animal, a much larger sedan designed in and produced solely for North America (big, cheap, and soft for "American tastes"). Not sure if there will be a wagon available, but I imagine they will offer a diesel.

#1205 of 1210 Re: Passat [nippononly] by doggrandma

Dec 04, 2009 (3:46 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Dec 04, 2009 3:12 pm)
Alas, the Jetta wagon is almost exactly the same size as my Mazda 3 (179 inches long and 70 inches wide). The Passat wagon is 188 inches long and 72 inches wide.
 
I have an 80 pound Lab and a 57 pound German Shorthaired Pointer. I need some extra room!

#1206 of 1210 Re: Toyota's fall continues [210delray] by doggrandma

Dec 04, 2009 (3:59 pm)

Replying to: 210delray (Dec 02, 2009 9:47 am)
I love the new Honda Element dog friendly vehicle (they know who their target audience is!), but it is a very short vehicle. My daughter was teasing me that if I bought the Element, my Lab's tail would be waving out the back as I drove along. I think I need more space than what it offers.
 
I appreciate all suggestions, though. Thanks.

#1207 of 1210 Re: Passat [nippononly] by robr2

Dec 04, 2009 (4:00 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Dec 04, 2009 3:12 pm)
As you may know, the 2011 Passat arriving next year will be a very different animal, a much larger sedan designed in and produced solely for North America (big, cheap, and soft for "American tastes"). Not sure if there will be a wagon available, but I imagine they will offer a diesel.
 
My understanding is that the new mid-size model has yet to have a name. It will grow in size to be more of a Camcord competitor and will be built at their new plant in Chattanooga. I doubt it will offer a wagon. A diesel will probably be offered.
 
The Passat name supposedly will stay with the CC and a new model will be coming out around 2013 with perhaps a wagon variant. It will continue to be made in Germany and will be priced as such.

#1208 of 1210 Mander Toyota employ liars by aussiejohnact

Dec 04, 2009 (6:47 pm)

Replying to: fintail (Aug 20, 2009 10:00 am)
Mander Toyota employ liars & perjurors
 read the full story here http://austlawpublish.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=2

#1209 of 1210 Re: Toyota's fall continues [doggrandma] by ateixeira

Dec 04, 2009 (8:29 pm)

Replying to: doggrandma (Dec 04, 2009 3:59 pm)
Forester might work. CR has a biggest-box test and the Forester does well for its class.
 
Think of that box as a large dog crate.
 
If you want to measure to compare, the Forester's cargo floor is 102" long from the center console all the way back. Not sure about the Element, but check it.

#1210 of 1210 Re: Toyota's fall continues [ateixeira] by doggrandma

Dec 05, 2009 (10:18 pm)

Replying to: ateixeira (Dec 04, 2009 8:29 pm)
Thanks. Forester and Outback are also on my short list. I appreciate the info.

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