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#120 of 129 Armada ABS and Brake Malfunction
by nisrjz
Oct 13, 2012 (2:21 pm)
I read all these posts about the Armada's ABs and Brake malfunctions, which are similar to the postings on the Nissan Armada.com Website.
The bare facts are:
1. Nissan knows about this problem from many, many owners.
2. Nissan is not interested in fixing this problem or they would have by now.
3. Nissan obviously doesn't give a hoot about your safety, your wife's safety or the safety of
your children.
4. The dealers can't or won't fixt the problem. They continue to do things which they know don't work. I have a 2004 Armada, one of the original. It has had this ABS and brake problem on and off for 9 years. I have written to Nissan USA, brought it to various dealers and complained to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (They have a web site where you can e mail your complaint).
In my opinion, not enough Armada owners file their complaint in appropriate places. If all armada owners would file a complaint with NHTSA, as above, maybe they would order a recall and then Nissan would HAVE to fix the problem.
My other suggestion, which I have made, to no avail, to other Armada owners is to join me in bringing a Class Action Lawsuit, on behalf of all Nissan Owners similarly afflicted, against Nissan USA and the manufacturer. I happen to be a Long Island Attorney. I would be willing to commence the prosecute the suit, if the fellow owners would pitch in the share the Court costs and disbursements with me. My fee would be paid by Nissan if we win the law suit.
When I make this suggestion, it would appear that most Armada owners would rather rave about the problem on line, then go back to the football game on TV. Nobody appears sufficiently serious in bringing this matter to a head by making Nissan either fix this problem to pay damages to the owners of the defective vehicles it sold to Armada owners, with knowledge that the vehiclesl have this very dangerous defect.
So, unless you guys all get serious about this, stop putting these posts on line which are more than copious by now and become redundent. In all fairness, I have been reading these posts since I bought the Armada in 2004 and not one posting owner has thought the problem serious enough to do something about it.
Thanks for listening. Nissan must love the "sheep" who purchase their defective Armadas and do nothing.
NISRJZ
#121 of 129 Re: Armada front Brake problem, Pulsate ,wheel shake [wood3462]
by nisrjz
Oct 13, 2012 (2:39 pm)
Sir, you are so right about everyone taking action, but nobody does - they just like to rail on line and go back to the football game.
You may think your problem is fixed by rotors and brake pads, but that is not the problem. The real problem is in the ABS system, which actuates when it is not supposed to. Nissan knows this. They supposedly reprogrammed by ABs controler, replaced a sensor for the ABS and performed a recall on a switch/relay in the engine compartment, but the problem persists--worse than ever. Then the dealer took it back and tell me it needs a new brake booster. I asked the service writer " What does a brake booster have to do with the ABs coming on randomly" - His answer
was " I don't know...that's what the tech says". Perhaps he should had the "tech explain this to me", but no such effort was made. My usual local mechanic says it sounds like hogwash to him too.
Owners afflicted should join in a Class Action Law Suit in Federal Court.
The lawyer's fee will be paid by the defendant if we succeed.
Filing fee disbursements would have to be advanced by a few of us, however.
If anyone is TRULY interested in solving this problem once and for all, instead of leaving your family's at the mercy of Nissan's inaction and probablly endangering their very lives, I would suggest you get in touch with me and we can get the ball rolling.
NISRJZ
#122 of 129 Re: Armada front Brake problem, Pulsate ,wheel shake [nisrjz]
by Stever@Edmunds HOST
Oct 13, 2012 (2:55 pm)
And two or three years later, if you win, you get a $500 coupon off on a new Nissan.
If you really want action, just go to small claims court. But no one (much) ever does that either.
Meanwhile if the recall didn't fix the problem and there's still a safety issue, owners should contact the NHTSA.
#123 of 129 Re: Armada ABS and Brake Malfunction [nisrjz]
by amber78
Oct 13, 2012 (6:23 pm)
I have filed a complaint with the BBB several time. Took it to the shop and the so called specialist that came in for my specific case said it needed wheel sensors. Even though I have done all the research and told them that is not the problem they insisted to replace them. As they did free of charge. Less than 3 elweeks later the problem happened again. I contact Nissan again and the BBB as well as Nissan Consumer Affairs. I have exhausted ever effort imaginable with this vehicle and I have gotten nowhere. The last time I took it to the shop I drove it to them will nearly no breaks so they could get the code. The code is pulling I need a break booster. Well duh that what I have told them all along. So when they wet back to Nissan Consumer Affairs with it. Big shocker they denied Fixing it ad said my vehicle is no longer under warranty. Well no sh** Sherlock. My vehicle is an 06. Like it would still have a manufacturers warranty on it being 6 years old. I have been fighting this battle for 3 years now and still nothing. I am however on a class action suit with an attorneys office in California. I just want it fixed period. There is no guarantee that the break booster will fix it an i for one do NOT have 800 dollars for the part and the labor with no guarantee.
Dec 10, 2012 (12:25 pm)
My saga started nearly 90,000 miles ago, and has finally resulted in them conducting a "Technical Bulletin" to reprogram my PCM--only $90 out of my pocket--in addition, of course, to the $110 "Minimum Diagnostic Fee"...My service advisor is also talking about either the brake booster or the master cylinder as well, but I have news for him there...Has anyone else had the PCM reprogrammed, and did it work for you?
#125 of 129 Re: Armada ABS and Brake Malfunction [amber78]
by nisrjz
Feb 24, 2013 (5:36 pm)
Sir: Good for you. Let me know what court the class action is in, if indeed you have filed it.
Meanwhile, the brake booster is a routine they go through to get you to spend money. I refused to do it, and my mechanic agreed. There is nothing wrong with your brake booster...trust me. Get it checked out with another mechanic.
When I refused to do that, I took the car back and went to my gas station mechanic....he put the car on the lift and found that it wasn't even the ABs acting up this time....the brake pad had come off its mounting plate which was clashing with the front rotor. Also he found a broken spring on the same right rear side. I got new brake pads, new rotors and two new front springs. Cost me $1200. but at least the right this was fixed. This was after Smithtown Nissan on Long Island gave me a checklist stating they performed a "safety check". They put my life in danger by writing up a phoney "safety check". Nissan owners out there, learn from my experience.
NISRjz
#126 of 129 Re: 05 Armada [datsun_man]
by nisrjz
Feb 24, 2013 (5:47 pm)
Dear Datsun man. They reprogrammed my ABS controler. I have not had a problem in the six months since, but that doesn't mean anything because this problem, of which Nissan is definitely aware, is sporadic...I have been dealing with this since 2004. Write the National Highway Transportation Safety Administration....they are online. The more complaints the better.
Put it in the public records so some smart attorney can pull it up when someone is badly injured because of this. In fact, even better, send a letter about it to Nissan USA in California, certified mail, return receipt request and keep the letter and the return receipt so you can give it to an attorney if you hear about an accident because of this problem. Keep them in a place where you can put your hands on it in the future.
All of you Armada owners should do this. Form a database of letters sent. Someone should organize this and have it ready so anyone hurt can sue Nissan USA and succeed.
Do yourself a favor. They use this problem to suggest you pay for
ridiculously repairs which have nothing to do with the abs problem, and they know it.
Get as far away as you can from any Nissan dealer. They are not honorable..all the way to the top management of Nissan USA.
Get rid of the Armada when you are able and never buy a Nissan product again. Vote with your dollars and your feet.
The Japanese just are no honorable people. we knew it in WWII and it is still the same way. Don't do business with them.. Their cars aren't so great anymore and US cars are better...wake up, all you jerks like me who bought a Nissan.
Nisrjz
#129 of 129 Re: 2006 Nissan Armada Brake Problems [lobbydave]
by nisrjz
Feb 24, 2013 (5:56 pm)
This is a scam with the brake booster. Get the booster checked out by a reliable mechanic NOT connected with Nissan. I'm betting there is nothing wrong with your brake booster..Please look elsewhere...Nissan dealers are useles and they make ineffectual and unneeded repairs...I didn't fall for it, but wised up. Read my other postsl NISRJz