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Suzuki Kizashi, Car Comparisons, Sedan
#193 of 227 Re: That's what I have been saying [chuck1]
Nov 06, 2012 (11:45 am)
I had seriously considered the 2010 Kizashi, and am so glad I did not get more serious about it. At the time, it had good features for the price, and I like that size of car better than say the larger Legacy.
But Suzuki dumped it here and did almost nothing to update it or expand its powertrain, even as compacts and subcompacts not to mention mid-sizers were adding cross-traffic indicators, blind spot monitors, adaptive cruise control, more power, better mileage...I could go on.
I have no idea what Suzuki's inept executives were thinking, but it was probably as off-base as the plans Ford had for Lincoln, from 2001 to 2011. Actually, to be honest, Suzuki's management was leagues worse, geometrically worse than what Lincoln management did or didn't do for awhile.
And I doubt that effective management could have saved Suzuki, due to its sparse and mostly dismal lineup. There wasn't a single model that was ranked anywhere near the top of its class, and for most classes of vehicles, Suzukis were completely missing in action. The dumb-ass management sent in since 2008 (and frequently changed) just made everything so much worse. There's a book here on how not to do things.
#194 of 227 Re: That's what I have been saying [gregg_vw]
Nov 06, 2012 (1:43 pm)
Yep, so true.
This train crash was even worse than the Cerebrus/Chrysler debacle.
#195 of 227 Deathwatch Two
Nov 06, 2012 (3:53 pm)
Mitsubishi only sells double of what Suzuki sold. And Mitsu has two models scheduled to be dropped and no new replacements scheduled.
They have sold only 50,000 units, again about double the 24,000 units Suzuki sold. Not enough to be profitable.
I say gone within 24 months.....
#197 of 227 Re: That's what I have been saying [gregg_vw]
Nov 06, 2012 (5:56 pm)
Having been in an industry that relied heavily in foreign equipment, it is these same cultures who sit in a skyscraper 10,000 miles away that have an attitude of "their way or the highway".
You know what they say about payback.....it's a b**** sometimes!
Do you notice how quiet it's been from iluvmysephia1? First he says go ahead and buy a Suzuki, everything will be fine, then in another post tells us that Mitsubishi is apparently running their North America Operations for the fun of it, since they too will never leave the market.
#198 of 227 Suzuki depreciation
Nov 13, 2012 (5:13 pm)
Read an article where an auto guru said the passing of Suzuki would only boost depreciation a few % I found that hard to believe so I looked at big Suzuki dealer in midwest that is discounting new models $5K and $6K. With base prices starting in the low teens thats about 30% for starters, that looks like a lot more than a few % dip, new cars selling for less than used - not for long!
Suzuki is continuing in Canada, I guess US models will migrate north
#199 of 227 Re: Suzuki depreciation [rktbrkr]
Nov 13, 2012 (7:05 pm)
Those so called Gurus never want to get on a manufacturer's bad side. He is hedging his bets in case Suzuki ever comes back around.
You are right, if they are discounting Suzukis new 5k to 6k, what is a USED ONE WORTH?
#200 of 227 Re: Suzuki depreciation [chuck1]
Nov 14, 2012 (4:02 am)
Suzuki is very competitive in small cars, they are the 3cyl champ of the universe but they wanted to be like everybody else and produced a series of uninspiring cars, with a horrible dealer network. Numerous states are legalizing golf carts and other goofy vehicles for local roads, Suzi should have jumped on that with their myriad of small vehicles.
They have a good rep with their other products and produce reliable engines and drivetrains but didn't parlay that into market favs. Kizashi is a nice car with a horrible name, the SX4 is co-developed with Chrysler, if Suzukis were rebadged and sold thru the Chrysler network they'd steal sales from Chrysler and Fiat models. Somebody with a decent network should be able to sell renamed Kizashis in decent numbers.
Once burned, twice shy.
Nov 14, 2012 (4:02 pm)
I'm not being quiet, I just don't feel like coming back on here and telling you that the Suzuki Kizashi is still the best midsizer out there.
And as far as Mitsubishi leaving the U.S. market, read my lips...no new taxes...umm...I mean Mitsubishi won't be leaving the U.S. market. This year. Or next year.
Or the year after that. Or that. Truth be this.
#202 of 227 Re: Hey chucky.... [iluvmysephia1]
Nov 14, 2012 (6:15 pm)
Your right about Mitsu not leaving the market. They are making product for export in Normal, IL. They will in all likelihood not close that plant.
They will probably continue to have a sub-standard dealer network and just let their dealers fall where they may. It would look bad to have a domestic manufacturing plant with no dealer network, as pitiful as it may be.
Their goal of selling 100K in units is a pipe dream.